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autx790 03-30-2013 06:40 PM

supply line broke in yard
 
My sisters back yard has been puddling water for about a month now. Sewer has been out to say they have no pipes running in that area. Water company said its not them either and there is no chlorine in it. Its a black plastic corregated tubing about 2-3" wide and laying on a bed of gravel. It isn't perforated. Its burried about 2ft down. The hole where the water is coming out burst outward. The pipe is alway full of water and runs parallel to the house about 20' away. They have a well for two outdoor faucets but Iits shut off. Any ideas what this could be? It kind of stinks like bad water and left one part of the yard with an orange film.

jagans 03-30-2013 07:11 PM

Sump Pump? how deep is the water table there?

basin 03-30-2013 07:17 PM

sounds like discharge line from clear water sump pump

autx790 03-31-2013 10:07 AM

I was told there isnt a sump pump but what would one be used for? I'm not sure what the water table is but next to the pipe I dug a hole 3' deep and it was all dry clay. The house is up 2-3' with crawl space. No humidity under it

djlandkpl 03-31-2013 10:21 AM

Sounds to me like a french drain. The staining is from the clay. Can you post a picture?

autx790 03-31-2013 10:55 AM

I can't get a picture of the pipe cause water is constantly puddling all around it even with a pump taking the water out of it. Ill try to get a picture of what I can. The clay is grey and some blue. Would that still leave an orange stain?

djlandkpl 03-31-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by autx790 (Post 1149572)
I can't get a picture of the pipe cause water is constantly puddling all around it even with a pump taking the water out of it. Ill try to get a picture of what I can. The clay is grey and some blue. Would that still leave an orange stain?

I'm guessing... the water in the pipe is high in iron/manganese and is mixing with the clay. Has it been raining a lot recently / snow melt?

How long has your sister lived in the house?

jagans 03-31-2013 11:54 AM

When you say the well is turned off, do you mean that the electricity to the well pump is turned off?

autx790 03-31-2013 03:51 PM

Thanks for all the feedback. Shes been in the house I think about 5-6 years. The previous owners said they don't know what it could be either.

No snow melt. We're in charleston sc. It hasn't rained too much lately...but its been going at the same rate for over a month now.

Yes the well is turned off as in the electricity is off at the pump

jagans 03-31-2013 03:57 PM

Has she tried killing the main at the breaker panel to turn off all power to the home, and then checking to see if the water is still coming out of the pipe?

If that does nothing, try pouring some food coloring into the sump pump well and see what happens?

This is a weird one indeed.

djlandkpl 03-31-2013 06:23 PM

Wild idea. Is there a chance the house was built on reclaimed land or an old landfill? The gravel bed makes me believe the pipe is for drainage not supply. Maybe pics of the area would help.

autx790 03-31-2013 06:52 PM

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Has she tried killing the main at the breaker panel to turn off all power to the home, and then checking to see if the water is still coming out of the pipe?

If that does nothing, try pouring some food coloring into the sump pump well and see what happens?

This is a weird one indeed.

I was just thinking the same thing. Everyone is pretty sure there are no other pumps to the house but killing the power would confirm. My sister said the neighborhood assosciation said there are no pipes running in that area that they know of either. So i'm starting to lean toward it being the well supply and that even if the pump is off, there is still enough pressure difference to cause the water to run on its own.

I'm going to try and put some food coloring in the hole and run the faucets with the pump on to see if it shows up there.

I've added a google earth image of the property until i can get better photos but this shows what I do know about the water works on the property. the blue boxes with arrows by there are the city sewage storm draings. There is a little water trickling through but really not much considering the pipes are big enough for me to crawl through. And NO...I wont. The arrows are in the direction of flow. from the back yard the pipe runs to the end of the driveway.

Going back in time on google earth shows this area was just wooded. I think the house was built in the 80s.

autx790 04-01-2013 06:31 PM

Or its E. None of thee above.

Someone came out today and determined the pipe is the overflow to the pond across the street behind the neighbors house. its all odd to me since the pond is down hill from the house but he said the rise in pond water is causing extra pressure to push the water up the pipe. Also said there is very high iron content in the water which you coul expect at the bottom of a pond.

That's the answer as of now.

jagans 04-01-2013 06:50 PM

The overflow from the pond across the street???? And the water flows up hill?????

OK. Yeah, this is really a weird one.

jaydevries 04-01-2013 06:56 PM

water pressure greater than gravity. i have seen houses in our are area where houses have no pump or pressure tank just a big holding tank and the one i was at got 35 psi constant


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