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Old 05-07-2009, 04:39 PM   #16
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Don't need one of those professional models, just something about ten feet long to pull the stuck snake out. I'm not sure why a homeowner would need to own one of those, unless you had a row of 20 willow trees growing above your sewer line, and had to cut the roots every 3 hours... lol.

Aren't there any plumbers on here who have had to remove a stuck snake? It sounds like a fairly common problem from what I've been hearing. Anyone..? Anyone..? Bueller?
I think the expectation that you have might be a bit too far reaching. It sounds like you're pressing for the solution you want (retrieving the snake via a consumer level retail device without busting up the floor). I've never seen that in an all in one tool, and I'm in the business and a licensed engineer, and I've done some crazy inspections on boilers and chemical process equipment. There are articulating head snakes with cameras on them, there snakes with claws on them, there are parts grabbers with retractable claws.

But an all in one device that will either fit down a residential waste line or be back fed up a branch from a cleanout? I do wish you luck, but I think you might be setting yourself up for disappointment. If it were me, I would be deathly afraid of getting something else stuck in there, or worse, knocking the thing loose and sending it further down the line to clog the whole system up. It would take me one long day to knock the floor up, get my device, and patch the concrete (I think you said you had it located). To me, that is the simplest solution.

Also, if I read it correctly, you want to back feed this device from the cleanout out on the lawn, back up stream the main into your house, into the branch that is trapping your stuck piece, and pull it back out the cleanout. That is risky, if not impossible. You might be lucky if the plumber installed a two way cleanout out on the lawn. That might be worth checking.

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Old 05-07-2009, 07:53 PM   #17
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I appreciate the depth of your response. I believe the plumbers actually did install a two-way cleanout. As for busting up and patching the concrete slab, I know it's a relatively straightforward job. I could do it tomorrow with a couple rented tools, no problem. It's just that the locator was only "precise" to within about five feet, so in my house finding the end of the snake might entail ripping up two (all) bathroom floors, the newly tiled kitchen floor, and probably removing some kitchen cabinets and the (only) tub as well. The main drain runs under a common wall shared by the bathrooms and kitchen, and the end of the snake (coming from the laundry drain) is right under the point the three rooms meet.
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Old 05-08-2009, 10:05 AM   #18
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It sounds like you have a tangle as every above says it will be your luckiest day if you get it out but I suppose it worth trying. If you are sure it is only the washing machine drain can you run another and leave that one alone? At some point it will be a problem unless you find a way to filter all the lint out of the washing machine discharge.

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Old 05-13-2009, 11:43 AM   #19
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The snake is out!
I started this thread with the assumption that the snake stuck in my washing machine drain wouldn’t cause any problems, because it had drained fine for two weeks of normal use and is a 2” cast iron pipe not shared by any other sinks, etc. Last Thursday afternoon, the washing machine drain backed up and caused some minor flooding. I called the plumbers back out Friday with their camera, and (as I suspected because of some slow draining from the shower), the head of the snake was poking out of the washing machine drain into the main 3” drain, catching “debris” and dryer lint.
Three weeks ago, the plumbers had plowed through roots to clear the drain about 75 feet behind my house, and had installed a two-way cleanout two feet behind my house. After spotting the head of the snake poking into the main drain just one foot from the edge of my foundation (probably directly under the common wall between the bath and kitchen), the plumbers used a 3” corkscrew head and pulled the snake out in about ten seconds.
So why didn’t they pull it out before? Well, we’d spent $310 we didn’t have for the other work (I even dug up the drain pipe for the cleanout installation, saving at least $100), and didn’t want to pay another $100 for the camera the same day. Besides, the plumbers assumed the snake wouldn’t cause any problems as long as no one tried to snake that particular drain. DIY projects are great, provided you have the time to do research and get the parts and do the work. I’ve moved sink drains, replaced valves, installed gas shutoff valves, added light fixtures, designed home theaters and computers, and installed garage door openers, etc. And I would have busted up the concrete had it come to it, to save money. (The snake was close enough that the plumbers thought I could have tunneled under the house, rather than breaking up the floor inside.) But when you need something done fast or in an emergency, call a pro.
I didn’t buy any lottery tickets last Friday… I forgot. Thanks to everyone who offered suggestions. Btw, the snake removal and camera use cost another $310 or so.

In the diagram below, the main drain runs under the wall between the kitchen and bathrooms, and straight out, more or less.
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The snake is out!
I started this thread with the assumption that the snake stuck in my washing machine drain wouldn’t cause any problems, because it had drained fine for two weeks of normal use and is a 2” cast iron pipe not shared by any other sinks, etc. Last Thursday afternoon, the washing machine drain backed up and caused some minor flooding. I called the plumbers back out Friday with their camera, and (as I suspected because of some slow draining from the shower), the head of the snake was poking out of the washing machine drain into the main 3” drain, catching “debris” and dryer lint.
Three weeks ago, the plumbers had plowed through roots to clear the drain about 75 feet behind my house, and had installed a two-way cleanout two feet behind my house. After spotting the head of the snake poking into the main drain just one foot from the edge of my foundation (probably directly under the common wall between the bath and kitchen), the plumbers used a 3” corkscrew head and pulled the snake out in about ten seconds.
So why didn’t they pull it out before? Well, we’d spent $310 we didn’t have for the other work (I even dug up the drain pipe for the cleanout installation, saving at least $100), and didn’t want to pay another $100 for the camera the same day. Besides, the plumbers assumed the snake wouldn’t cause any problems as long as no one tried to snake that particular drain. DIY projects are great, provided you have the time to do research and get the parts and do the work. I’ve moved sink drains, replaced valves, installed gas shutoff valves, added light fixtures, designed home theaters and computers, and installed garage door openers, etc. And I would have busted up the concrete had it come to it, to save money. (The snake was close enough that the plumbers thought I could have tunneled under the house, rather than breaking up the floor inside.) But when you need something done fast or in an emergency, call a pro.
I didn’t buy any lottery tickets last Friday… I forgot. Thanks to everyone who offered suggestions. Btw, the snake removal and camera use cost another $310 or so.

In the diagram below, the main drain runs under the wall between the kitchen and bathrooms, and straight out, more or less.
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Congragulations. that cork screw head is also known as a retriever head as I mentioned in one of my earlier post. See I do know what I am talking about sometimes.
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Thank for letting us know the outcome. I'm glad it worked out so well..
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Yes, I meant to post sooner but have just been busy with other projects. I hate it when you use google to find someone who had the same problem as you, but they never took ten minutes to post the solution--drives me crazy.

The plumbers used a smaller retriever head first, but it didn't catch on the snake, went right past it. Of the $300 they charged me, $100 was to run the camera, and the other $200 was for labor to go get the camera I had requested they bring when I called the day before (not their fault, technically it's the fault of the office person) and another trip to get the larger retriever head. So less than 15 minutes of work but about two hours of them driving around town. I'm just happy I avoided tearing up the slab, and when you're already $40,000 in debt....
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Congrats on getting that thing out and thanks for keeping us posted!

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