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dinosaur1 06-18-2011 10:04 AM

Sterling toilet, flapper issues
 
I have 2 Sterling 1.6 GPF toilets and I can't seem to find a good flapper for it that works the way it should. I do know that the flapper has to be longer vs the short flappers like a Korky for example. I have used Fluid Master because they seem to agree better with these toilets.

Lately I am having an issue where after the toilet is flushed water still trickles down into the toilet for 5-7min afterwards, I tried the food coloring test and there is a little bit that shows up even with the longer Fluid Master flapper.....any help is appreciated. Thanks

Ishmael 06-18-2011 09:55 PM

Sterling is a division of Kohler, and Kohler toilets - for whatever reason - seem to hate "universal" flappers like Korky or Fluidmaster. I agree with you that the Fluidmasters seem to work the best, though.

You could either get a replacement directly from Kohler/Sterling, or replace the whole flush valve with a Fluidmaster flush valve.

dinosaur1 06-18-2011 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ishmael
Sterling is a division of Kohler, and Kohler toilets - for whatever reason - seem to hate "universal" flappers like Korky or Fluidmaster. I agree with you that the Fluidmasters seem to work the best, though.

You could either get a replacement directly from Kohler/Sterling, or replace the whole flush valve with a Fluidmaster flush valve.

I tried a Kohler flapper with a float. It actually allows more water to trickle down into the toilet. When would it be actually time to replace the toilet?

Ishmael 06-19-2011 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dinosaur1 (Post 669745)
I tried a Kohler flapper with a float. It actually allows more water to trickle down into the toilet. When would it be actually time to replace the toilet?

Kohler has about a dozen different flappers, and probably more for their Sterling toilets. You have to have the model number of the toilet, and make sure you get the flapper that matches that model.

dinosaur1 06-19-2011 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

Kohler has about a dozen different flappers, and probably more for their Sterling toilets. You have to have the model number of the toilet, and make sure you get the flapper that matches that model.

Thanks
Where can I locate the actual model #?

Ishmael 06-19-2011 08:20 AM

Usually inside the tank - either a sticker or stamped into the side of the tank; also could be on the under side of the tank lid.

dinosaur1 06-19-2011 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ishmael
Usually inside the tank - either a sticker or stamped into the side of the tank; also could be on the under side of the tank lid.

Found it. 404015. Made by Sterling.

dinosaur1 06-19-2011 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

Kohler has about a dozen different flappers, and probably more for their Sterling toilets. You have to have the model number of the toilet, and make sure you get the flapper that matches that model.

Found it. What if I just buy the tank?Bottom portion is fine. Although entire toilet is same amount as jut the tank would cost online or in some local stores. Wow


http://m.lowes.com/mt/www.lowes.com:...#infoandguides

Ishmael 06-19-2011 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dinosaur1 (Post 669946)
Found it. What if I just buy the tank?Bottom portion is fine. Although entire toilet is same amount as jut the tank would cost online or in some local stores. Wow


http://m.lowes.com/mt/www.lowes.com:...#infoandguides

You don't need to replace the whole tank! But now that you have the model number, you can go on the Sterling web site, or even go to a plumbing wholesaler (not a Home Depot), and find the proper flapper for that toilet.

dinosaur1 06-19-2011 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

You don't need to replace the whole tank! But now that you have the model number, you can go on the Sterling web site, or even go to a plumbing wholesaler (not a Home Depot), and find the proper flapper for that toilet.

I bought a flapper that says it's for Sterling toilets at Ace Hardware, but the water trickles down even more into the tank. I don't get it.......

Ishmael 06-19-2011 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dinosaur1 (Post 670178)
I bought a flapper that says it's for Sterling toilets at Ace Hardware, but the water trickles down even more into the tank. I don't get it.......

Yeah...a lot of those hardware store after-market parts are junk. You want to get genuine Kohler (Sterling) parts. Call 1-800-STERLING and talk to customer service. Give them the model number you found inside the tank.

dinosaur1 06-19-2011 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

Yeah...a lot of those hardware store after-market parts are junk. You want to get genuine Kohler (Sterling) parts. Call 1-800-STERLING and talk to customer service. Give them the model number you found inside the tank.

No it's a genuine Kohler flapper.

Ishmael 06-19-2011 08:18 PM

You'll probably have to go back to "Plan B" and replace the flush valve. Fluidmaster makes a good flush valve, and (obviously) uses the ubiquitous Fluidmaster flappers if/when you need to change it.

There could be a nick on the seat of the flush valve that's preventing the flapper from making a complete seal.

dinosaur1 06-19-2011 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ishmael
You'll probably have to go back to "Plan B" and replace the flush valve. Fluidmaster makes a good flush valve, and (obviously) uses the ubiquitous Fluidmaster flappers if/when you need to change it.

There could be a nick on the seat of the flush valve that's preventing the flapper from making a complete seal.

How would I know for sure?


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