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Old 08-10-2012, 07:43 PM   #16
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Hey Alan, I went home, checked it out and did not have access to the bonnet nut. This is an old sillcock so maybe it has a slightly different set up? I ended up just cutting the old sillcock out from the copper piping, and chiseling it away from the wall... it was cemented into the wall. I am just going to solder a new one in. I actually tried using a Gator bite (shark bite knock off) to temporarily attach the new sillcock to the copper pipe inside and it worked great, but then leaked after 20 minutes from the threaded side (one side of the gator bite was threaded to screw onto the new brass sillcock, and the other side was the push fit part). I used teflon tape to try to stop the leak from the threaded side, and that helped but didn't completely stop the leak. I'm guessing either I did something wrong, the gator bite was faulty, maybe it needed thread sealant and not tape, maybe I didn't tighten it hard enough, I don't know but it didn't work so I removed it and am just going to solder the new brass sillcock to the copper piping inside tomorrow. I didn't know you could solder brass to copper, but the instructions for the sillcock apparently say you can. Man, I suck at plumbing, this shouldn't be this hard

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You need to replace that with a anti-spyhon type.
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Yep, you can solder brass to copper.

Plumbing is one of those things where you're only as good as the amount of practice you've had at it.



I commend you for trying, though.


I wanted to ask if the new one you bought allows access to the bonnet nut without removing the handle. That will make things easier in the future.
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Thanks Alan, hopefully as I gain experience with this stuff I will improve because right now I'm as shaky as a leaf with it, hahaha. But the new ones have a much better setup and make it easy to do repairs. Here are some pictures of them (I bought different sizes in case one size fit better).

The guy at the hardware store actually said these can't be soldered, and that I had to buy the copper ones, but I think he is wrong. I assumed they were brass, but they don't say "brass" anywhere on the package, so I got a bit worried he was right and I was wrong. But the instructions do say it can be soldered. Do they even make frost proof sillcocks that CAN NOT be soldered to copper pipe?
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A lot of times, fittings like the ones on the end of those are set up for both soldering inside, and take an FIP fitting on the outside of it.
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Look into the threaded end---It's brass.

Most often it's easiest to solder a length of copper into the inlet. ---a fitting will not clear the hole in the wall.

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