Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Plumbing

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 09-05-2012, 09:44 AM   #1
JPM
Bill Traver
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 117
Rewards Points: 81
Default

Snake vs Rod


Looking for professional opinion on buying a light duty tool to clear out mostly minor blockages from toilet/drain lines in rental property that is before the main line (although maybe slight cleaning of that occassionally).

I do not need heavy duty drum machine ... for major blocks, I will rent one....but want something to try before I go that way.

Not sure if getting a sewer rod or maybe drill-attachment snake or hand-held snake ... wondering what people might recommend.

Many pipes will have a couple of bends. Am willing to take off toilet or take apart traps as necessary to ease access.

Thanks,

Bill

JPM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 05:27 PM   #2
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 401
Rewards Points: 252
Default

Snake vs Rod


1+1/2" line, 5/16" cable 2" line, 3/8" cable 3" line 1/2" cable 4" line 5/8" cable These are general guidelines depending upon the quality of the cable, whether or not it is inner-core, open wind or closed wind, drum machine or sectional, level of experience. A Spartan 100 machine with two drums would handle what you describe. Get 3/8"x50', and 1/2"x 75' drums.

plumberinlaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 11:17 PM   #3
Master Plumber
 
Javiles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Miami Florida
Posts: 1,399
Rewards Points: 586
Default

Snake vs Rod


Different drains require different machines, as mentioned cables are extremely important, could cause personal injury. I see it at least once a week homeowner renting a machine getting on the roof, number #1 problem we see are stuck cables in the line. #2 can’t clear the line, and last week we had a guy who broke 2 fingers when the cable got stuck kinked back wrapped around his hand. And almost fell off the roof. now he had to replace cable on rental machine he rented and damaged, pay medical deductible lost 3 days of work and had to pay us to remove the cable and clear the line. oh and about 10 broken tile on the roof. the funny thing is he had called us earlier that day for an estimate, we charge a flat rate of $185.00 for a main or branch roof or clean out, free camera after cleaning and if the line has no problems a 6 month warranty on that linen, he thought it was to much so he went and rented a machine for 75.00 dollars.
__________________


Experience is Knowing what to do next, Skill is knowing how to do it

http://www.americandrain.net

Last edited by Javiles; 09-05-2012 at 11:29 PM.
Javiles is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Javiles For This Useful Post:
plumberinlaw (09-06-2012)
Old 09-06-2012, 08:37 AM   #4
JPM
Bill Traver
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 117
Rewards Points: 81
Default

Snake vs Rod


I am in NJ ... your rate would be fabulous here, especially with the "extras" .... however, that is not the case and I have a few rental units that occassionally get backed up, so it makes sense for me to start the job (keeping in mind my limitations).

Based on comments, here is what I am going with:
1/2 inch cable. Manual operated 35(?) ft. This will get me to locate blockages in the large lines and potentially work them free if it is not too bad.

Drum Machine. Picked up a COBRA DRUM with kinded cable and variety of "drop" type attachments for $20 from a guy who just wanted to get rid of it. I will buy a new cable for it .. probably 5/16. Will use this on the sometimes twisty and multiple turns of the kitchen and bath lines.

For all major blocks, will rent a machine.

Forget the roof, you won't find me there! Also, will work slow and with safety with the drum ... I too have seen some people use the bigger drum machines, lose safety focus, and mangle their hands ... definately not pretty.

THANKS TO BOTH OF YOU FOR THE ADVICE ... I FEEL IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE NOW!!!!

BTW: Never really heard of a "roof blockage before" ... how often does that happen and what are the signs of it occuring?
JPM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 12:15 PM   #5
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 401
Rewards Points: 252
Default

Snake vs Rod


In areas south of the Mason-Dixon line roofs are flater than in snow country. If they can;t find a cleanout they go thru a roof vent
plumberinlaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Can't get snake down tub overflow darsunt Plumbing 15 11-10-2012 08:50 AM
Tub drain completely blocked. Snake no help. Sink and toilet fine. Whybenormal Plumbing 10 08-01-2011 10:55 PM
Snake Identification Giles Off Topic 1 06-05-2010 02:37 PM
Stuck Snake frederick70 Plumbing 22 05-13-2009 05:01 PM
How to use a snake to clear a drain? Nestor_Kelebay Plumbing 11 12-09-2008 04:45 PM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.