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Old 05-08-2014, 07:04 PM   #16
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Barb, I had that happen to a house I had one time, the wind would blow the smell down from the vents at times.

I don't know what the code is but maybe you could ask the tank cleaners if it would be possible to have the gray water dump into the field lines instead of the tank. I don't even know if that would work but it would be worth a try.

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I have installed charcoal filters on smelly vents- seems to work.

As for the septic- I don't buy into the excessive green products- but each his own..
22 yrs. in my house raising 3 kids and only pumped my system twice. Going to convert to the city soon though.

If the system is properly sized for bedroom/baths, engineered and installed properly you should be good.

However, today I did replac a set of bathroom fixtures because of sewer backup from a saturated drainfield. all the flooring was replaced.....
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I do daycare here in my house, so the toilet gets much more use than most houses.
There are also many products on the market, i.e. baby wipes, hand wipes, etc. that they refer to as "flushable". Don't do it. Only TP and human waste should go down the drain. Avoid flushing or draining other common household products, chemicals, bleach, grease, cooking oil, fats, etc.

If you continue to notice a smell coming from the vents after you've had the tank pumpe and it's been given a clean bill of health, try installing charcoal filters over the vents on the roof.
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A lot of municipalities around here are mandating a 3 year pump out.
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Lateral Concepts, a few years ago, when the guy was pumping the tanks out, he noticed a few baby wipes. I don't know who flushed them - probably one of the kids. I don't keep them in the bathroom. But he told us that they don't break down and if they were to plug the pump on his truck, he would have to charge us extra. Yikes!

EPlumber, our town is getting ready to install a sewer system too. It's already in the newer housing developments. I hate the thought of hooking up to it though. Who knows how much it will cost. I've heard it will be a little bit shy of $20,000. For that much, they can bypass my house. I'll keep my septic tank. Too bad it's not as easy as that - probably not one of those things you can opt out of.

I don't know how they could hook us up to a sewer system anyway. Our bathrooms are at the back of the house and that's where the pipe that leads out to the septic tank is. So is it even possible to hook-up to it without running pipes through or under the house? How does that work?

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I don't know how they could hook us up to a sewer system anyway. Our bathrooms are at the back of the house and that's where the pipe that leads out to the septic tank is. So is it even possible to hook-up to it without running pipes through or under the house? How does that work?

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A few methods come to mind-depending on your site conditions.

The building drain is located where it exits the house. Then a new ditch is dug to the sewer stub located near the curb line. Pipe is then laid between the 2 points.

If you have a crawl space a redirect is done. Thats where the building drain is located in the crawl before it exits to the tank. It is then redirected toward the city stub in the crawl. A new ditch will be dug from that point to the stub.

If you have a basement, a slab cut is made across the floor for a trench to receive the pipe. Again, trenching through the yard to the stub.

Last but not least- is directional boring. I'll let you google that one
It does the least damage to concrete slabs and yards. Can work out really well too.
Sounds like you've got some time to research it....
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Barb, I had that happen to a house I had one time, the wind would blow the smell down from the vents at times.

I don't know what the code is but maybe you could ask the tank cleaners if it would be possible to have the gray water dump into the field lines instead of the tank. I don't even know if that would work but it would be worth a try.
Or even just recycling the Gray Water for watering the grass, etc. It costs a little bit to put in the system to help clean the Gray Water before being able to use on the garden. But the payback would probably be worth it in the long run.
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Barb, when they did the change over in my old neighborhood that I grew up in. The tank was located on the back of the house. If I recall, they just went down the right side of the house with a line and connected to the drain on the back with Street El's to get around the corner.

Basically took a long sweep around the house. They did have to drop the slope more then you would when going straight out of the house. If I recall also. Dad did some bartering with someone at the Ma Bell office he worked at, to do the trenching and help with the piping needed.
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A few methods come to mind-depending on your site conditions.

The building drain is located where it exits the house. Then a new ditch is dug to the sewer stub located near the curb line. Pipe is then laid between the 2 points.

If you have a crawl space a redirect is done. Thats where the building drain is located in the crawl before it exits to the tank. It is then redirected toward the city stub in the crawl. A new ditch will be dug from that point to the stub.

If you have a basement, a slab cut is made across the floor for a trench to receive the pipe. Again, trenching through the yard to the stub.

Last but not least- is directional boring. I'll let you google that one
It does the least damage to concrete slabs and yards. Can work out really well too.
Sounds like you've got some time to research it....
We have a basement, but the area where the trench would have to be dug is finished, with carpet.

I Googled the 'directional boring' and there are a few companies in Michigan that do it. I didn't read anything about it, but I think I get the idea from the pictures. Looking at the machines they use, it looks like it might cost an arm and a leg - or maybe 2 arms and a leg to have the work done. I could be wrong about that.

If that's too pricey, maybe trenching around the side of the house, like gregzoll said, will be the way to go.

Hopefully it'll be a while until we have to worry about it.
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Yes, boring may cost more, but look at the impact a trench will make on your landscape- think of the cost to repair topsoil, sod, plants, driveways, side walks, portions of basement slabs, etc.

Think about this, when a ditch is dug where is that soil stock piled? Yep, right next to the ditch on your lawn. A good company can clean it up real nice but not all are that good.

I'm just throwing out some things to consider when the time comes Boring is only one option.
When the sewer does come in your area, you'll see equipment running all over the neighborhood. That's when you start serious planning.
Keeps us posted on your septic smell
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Also depends on what is behind you. They may end up running the main line behind your home, not in front. Keep up on the utility to see what their projected goal is, when they will start in your area. Also they should have a session where residents can put input in on what will happen.
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We had the septic tanks cleaned-out in the fall. The guy who did it said we probably have a few good years left with this drain field, but to get the tanks pumped out every 2 years. He's pretty sure that roots from the trees have grown into the pipes and are keeping them from draining properly.

After the tanks were cleaned-out, everything seemed fine for a few weeks or so - no smell coming from the ground.

But since then, every time we use a lot of water or drain the bathtub the air outside the house smells awful. It seems to be alright when we use small amounts of water at a time like flushing the toilet, hand washing, dish washing by hand, etc.

My two main concerns about this are, if we smell it in our yard, the neighbors can too and I don't want to be a bad neighbor. Also, the guy who emptied the tanks said it could start backing-up into the house.

Does it sound like we need to replace the drain field? If so, what kind of company would I call to get it done?
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Yep if you are still smelling it. As for the company, any plumbing company. Check with the septic company you have that drains it, if they have any referrals.
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We had the septic tanks cleaned-out in the fall. The guy who did it said we probably have a few good years left with this drain field, but to get the tanks pumped out every 2 years. He's pretty sure that roots from the trees have grown into the pipes and are keeping them from draining properly.

After the tanks were cleaned-out, everything seemed fine for a few weeks or so - no smell coming from the ground.

But since then, every time we use a lot of water or drain the bathtub the air outside the house smells awful. It seems to be alright when we use small amounts of water at a time like flushing the toilet, hand washing, dish washing by hand, etc.

My two main concerns about this are, if we smell it in our yard, the neighbors can too and I don't want to be a bad neighbor. Also, the guy who emptied the tanks said it could start backing-up into the house.

Does it sound like we need to replace the drain field? If so, what kind of company would I call to get it done?
Barb, the guy who cleaned your tank should know someone trustworthy.
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Thank you Jim and Gregzoll, I'll give them a call.

Can it be done when the ground is frozen or would they wait until spring?

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