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dav7612r 07-29-2010 06:30 PM

Slow drain is still slow
 
Tried you're standard drano at first. Sink still filled up with water and drained very slow. Today I took the drain apart and found no clog. I then ran a snake through the rest of the drain, pulled out a few small clumps of what looked like hair, but nothing major. I ran the snake down atleast 20 feet through the drain. I put everything back together, turn the water on, and the sink fills up with water again. What gives? :mad:

concretemasonry 07-29-2010 06:35 PM

How clear and effective is the vent?

Dick

dav7612r 07-29-2010 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by concretemasonry (Post 477440)
How clear and effective is the vent?

Dick

To my surprise, I found a yellow jacket nest in the vent!

Proby 07-29-2010 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dav7612r (Post 477570)
To my surprise, I found a yellow jacket nest in the vent!

Did that fix it?

dav7612r 07-29-2010 11:43 PM

Need to spray the nest before i try to shove something down the pipe to break it apart. Wish me luck. lol

Mike Swearingen 07-30-2010 02:46 AM

Soak them down with wasp-and-hornet spray and try to remove the nest instead of pushing it down (with a plumber's snake).
Flush the vetn pipe down with a garden hose to make sure that all else is cleared out.
Good luck!
Mike

dav7612r 07-31-2010 08:04 PM

Ok guys, here's what i did today.

Killed the hornets nest and removed most of it.

Ran a hose down the vent pipe with a high pressure nozzle attached to the end and ran the water. Water backed up in the kitchen sink.

Shoved a 10 ft piece of pvc down the vent and only about 5 ft made it through before i couldn't go any farther.

Sink is still slow to drain. Any idea's???

TheEplumber 07-31-2010 08:44 PM

Run your drain cable down your vent. Listen for the water to drop when the drain opens. Also you may want to cable through the trap arm again.

Yoyizit 07-31-2010 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dav7612r (Post 478368)
Water backed up in the kitchen sink.

So the blockage is downstream of both sinks.

LateralConcepts 07-31-2010 11:12 PM

Is this the kitchen or lav drain?

Did your cable come back greasy?

How far did you run the cable?

How far does it run before tying into the main?

dav7612r 07-31-2010 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LateralConcepts (Post 478432)
Is this the kitchen or lav drain?

Did your cable come back greasy?

How far did you run the cable?

How far does it run before tying into the main?

Kitchen

A little greasy.

Didnt use a cable, just straight 1/2in pvc pipe, made it down about 5ft from the top of the vent,

Not sure how far it is to the main.

LateralConcepts 08-01-2010 08:49 AM

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Kitchen

A little greasy.

Didnt use a cable, just straight 1/2in pvc pipe, made it down about 5ft from the top of the vent,

Not sure how far it is to the main.
In your original post you mentioned running a snake. If it's exposed in the basement or crawl space, look at it and see how far you need to go before it ties into the main.

When you originally put everything back together and turned the water on, how quickly did it back up? Was it immediately or did it take a while? You can kind of guess how far the blockage is by that. If it was almost immediately then you most likely went past the blockage when you ran the cable. If it's a soft greasy blockage; then the cable may have gone through it, but closes itself back off when you pull the cable out. In which case you would need to put some bends in your cable and run it in and out with a scrubbing like motion. Have you tried plunging it?

When you ran a piece of PVC down the vent you were most likely just hitting the first bend at the bottom of the stack. Also, a ventilation problem wouldn't cause a solid blockage (no drainage at all). It would cause it to gurgle, bubble, and drain slowly.

NHMaster 08-01-2010 08:56 AM

call a drain company. Those cheapo little home handyman drain snakes are next to useless.

LateralConcepts 08-01-2010 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by NHMaster (Post 478529)
call a drain company. Those cheapo little home handyman drain snakes are next to useless.

I agree. You need some torque! Which if you're not experienced in drain cleaning, you could wrap yourself up pretty good. Not fun.

NHMaster 08-01-2010 09:28 AM

Even if you get to the clog all those spindly snakes will do is punch a hole through it, they will not pull the crap out of the drain. A kinetic water ram might do the trick but if you don't know what you are doing it will make a mess that words can't describe.:thumbsup:


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