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Old 07-25-2012, 09:11 PM   #1
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Sink basin's chrome drain elbow soldered?


I have some chrome basin plumbing set up as shown in the link below. The final "elbow" piece that goes to the wall looks to be be soldered inside of the pipe from the wall.

Is soldering this normal?

My problem is that that elbow piece broke and I'm not sure how to get it out properly to insert the replacement elbow?

http://kitchenbathroomfixtures.com/s...in-p-trap.html

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Could you provide a pic of the broken elbow? Removing it depends on what type of material it is.
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It's exactly what's shown in that link... I think it's chrome plated brass... the stuff from days of old that I'm not sure they really use anymore...
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The link just shows a common chrome p trap. Sounds as though yours is set in lead. Not an easy fix

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Sounds like you have a solder bushing in a galvanized or cast iron fitting. It should unscrew with the help of a large pipe wrench. I've had a few times where I was very lucky and they came out easy.

Most of the time it's very awkward trying to get a wrench big enough on it to get enough leverage to get it to turn.

If it won't turn, the other option is cutting it out, and that can be tricky, frustrating, and also runs the risk of damaging the fitting in the wall if you don't know what you're doing.

Sorry to say you most likely don't have an easy one here.
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I bet it looks like this at the wall :

http://www.plumbing-geek.com/images/sweatbushing.jpg


Sometimes i've seen them inside of the wall where they aren't accessible.
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OK, OK, here are some photos!

The first shows that it's a chrome plated brass pipe and the second shows a closeup of the actual connection...

How should I proceed to get it out?

Also, if you look at the link in my first post, the new elbow is just a pipe with no threads or anything, so how does it connect up?

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Open the drywall 1/4 to 1/2" around the pipe to see if you see a female threaded fitting in there.....
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couldn't you just cut the elbow part off at the straight section which is soldered, and use a plastic slip joint from there on out? From the pix, it looks like there's enough room. A couple inches of straight is really all you need to make it work.

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For a slip joint don't you need threads on one of the pipes? The new chrome elbow would not have threads (see the photo linked in the original post).

Unless I could use a PVC elbow? It would connect to the chrome at the wall side... but would this connect to my chrome P trap at the other side?

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get what they use to call a repair trap.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/Rep...26-153660619-2

they also make them in pvc

http://www.amazon.com/Pvc-Sink-Repai.../dp/B000M2WAEU
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For a slip joint don't you need threads on one of the pipes? The new chrome elbow would not have threads (see the photo linked in the original post).

Unless I could use a PVC elbow? It would connect to the chrome at the wall side... but would this connect to my chrome P trap at the other side?

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No, you can ACTUALLY use a slip joint coupling to make the connection to what's left of the chrome trap when you cut it. I've seen this done a bunch of times, and it ends up failing when the leftover part of the chrome p-trap rots out.


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