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Old 01-11-2017, 06:37 AM   #16
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I have this whole house filter. I didn't care for their paper filters as they seemed to collapse and tear prematurely. I ordered a box of 24 or maybe that was 12 synthetic string filters on line at a cost of about 3 bucks each if I recall.

These filters are good for scale, sediment particles etc. but are not for mineral deposits as seen in my picture post. A water softener of some type would be required for that.
Thanks Senior - my challenge is my main line comes into the house from the street underground and goes under the foundation opposite the garage side of the house...There's no exposed pipes anywhere. So, my only option is to dig and find the 1" PVC line, cut into it, 90 it up, make my line in and line out and back into the ground. Then I'd have to build an well insulated mini-well house around all of this w a removable top and put it close to the house...

Also, at this particular junction, I have a faucet coming off the stucco wall, the irrigation cut-off and back flow-valve and the pool cut-off/back-flow valve and all the above grd PVC for both [all well insulated].

So I'm open to installing a sediment remover, anything else it removes a plus..thanks, tstex

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Old 01-11-2017, 07:35 AM   #17
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Our filter is at the water well but the cold supply enters the house and goes directly to the water heater first and Tee'd. There isn't room for a filter at this location with our arrangement in a closet but possibly you have room in the water heater area for a filter.
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However, tstex's valve does not look like a Fluidmaster. Never seen a Fluidmaster with a white cap.
We can fix that.
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Thanks again Senior - we have two interconnected 50gall water heaters in the attic...it's all copper to them so I have some things to change here...I appreciate it

Oso, thank you very much for the chart - I am going to knock out the cleaning of these Friday aftn - regards, tstex
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I failed to mention earlier that municipal water sediment isn't as much of a problem in hot water lines as cold water lines. Reason being the hot water tank mostly takes care those sediments with a specific gravity greater than water ie they become a sediment tank.

In fact I have a hot water heater sediment tank in the well house before the filter and it's done an excellent job for 30+ years minimizing filter changes. So with this in mind you may benefit from a filter after your water heaters if that's possible.
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Boy Senior, you are giving me a lot to think about here...

I am going to replace both of these water heaters in the very near future and will need to come-up w a design that can incorporate the most efficient filtering system. I would be real interested in talking w my builder to determine where the main water line first comes into the house that is accessible. this can possibly make it a lot easier to install the filter.

Thanks again Sr - tstex
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"They can clogg easy. Just had some sediment buildup that dislodged when the valve used". This is exactly why I am posting here...both my cut-off valves froze

" Another pretty cheap money saving upgrade I always recommend is a whole house water filter.
I like the American Plumber WC34-PRB for about $50.00. No need to spend more and the filters are $5 to $10 a piece that I only have to replace once a year at my house."

Can I install one of these so they filter everything coming into the house? We have a separate irrigation line, so one on this would prob keep the heads from getting trashed out earlier.

Is there a specific make and model? THank you very much
Again " American Plumber model WC34-PRB "
Looks like the one in the post below.

Yes can have it hooked up to the whole house. I did for first few years.
But with a pool and irrigation system I was changing the filters about every 4 months. (would notice a loss of pressure when filter dirty)

So I did some replumbing and had the filter for everything inside the house and bypassed the filter for everything outside. Now I only need to change filter once a year.

Couple of notes: Did not seem to save the sprinkler heads or make them last longer but not sure. I have only replaced a couple of heads in over 20 years.
The filters are so cheap that it is really not a big deal even if you do change them often. So up to you.
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"They can clogg easy. Just had some sediment buildup that dislodged when the valve used". This is exactly why I am posting here...both my cut-off valves froze

" Another pretty cheap money saving upgrade I always recommend is a whole house water filter.
I like the American Plumber WC34-PRB for about $50.00. No need to spend more and the filters are $5 to $10 a piece that I only have to replace once a year at my house."

Can I install one of these so they filter everything coming into the house? We have a separate irrigation line, so one on this would prob keep the heads from getting trashed out earlier.

Is there a specific make and model? THank you very much
Just to add. It is the fluidmasters that can clogg easy which is sort of common. Not the valves, this is not as common.
Could go years then city works on a city pipe or water supply and then get sediment.

Place the filter were it is easy to get to and change. Laundry room or by water heater. But anywhere. With pex pipe it is not a problem to even put the filter on the oppoisite side of the house as the water coming in.

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