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Old 05-17-2013, 08:31 PM   #1
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I decided to replace some shower faucet stems and seats, which is normally a fairly simple operation. However, I ran into a major problem when I tried to remove the faucet covers.

What at a glance appears to be normal bathroom silicone caulk turned out to be some extremely heavy-duty permanent adhesive. I have spent hours working the edges with a razor blade but as you can see in this picture, have not gotten the covers to budge. Apparently, whoever repaired this last used the wrong stuff--and used a lot of it. It seems the entire undersides, not just the edges, are bound to the fiberglass surrounds wall. I have no clue how to get these things off.

I want to remove the covers without damaging the fiberglass surrounds. However, I am not sure how to go about this. At this point, I accept that the covers may have to be destroyed--I already damaged the left edge of the cold side.

Any ideas?

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Maybe someone used epoxy. Try heating them on high with a hair dryer. Some epoxies soften with heat.

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See those hollow tube looking things? Those need to be unscrewed before the escuntions can some off. Most are made in one piece.
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Poly Seam Seal---I worked for someone who used that---I hate the stuff---
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joe caught that...uncrew tubes everything will or should come apart...ben sr
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See those hollow tube looking things? Those need to be unscrewed before the escuntions can some off. Most are made in one piece.
What are you calling a hollow tube?

For the sake of discussion, here is what a Pfister shower stem looks like.

My best guess is that by "hollow tube" you are referring to "A". However this is not a hollow tube, but a solid stem and turning it, only makes "B" move. I need to get to "C", to remove the whole stem. However, it is inaccessible as long as the chrome covers in my original picture remain in place.

There is nothing mechanical holding the chrome covers in place--only adhesive. There were a couple screw-in/screw-on plastic pieces that do hold the chrome covers in place, but they are already removed in my original pic and are not a part of the problem.

I will give heat a try, but am not optimistic.
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http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...lectedIndex=21

See the part called an escutchon? It's held in place by one of two ways.
A tiny set screw on the bottom or it screws off.
Look for a small hole where an allen wrench would go in. No hole then it's threaded.
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See the part called an escutchon? It's held in place by one of two ways.
A tiny set screw on the bottom or it screws off.
Look for a small hole where an allen wrench would go in. No hole then it's threaded.

I appreciate you trying to help but what you are showing here is not what I have. This is more like it.

I understand how to take these things apart, as I have replaced several identical valve stems and seats. The flange (#4) was held in place mechanically by a nipple and nut, which have been removed already. However, even with these connectors removed, the flange is still stuck there, held in place by the heavy duty adhesive, which has it glued to the shower wall.

Please trust me that there is nothing more that I can unscrew or loosen. I just need to break the bond of the glue.
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So basically the escutcheons move in and out with the fiberglass surround, right? Did you try heat yet?

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