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Old 12-07-2012, 08:41 PM   #16
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OP indicated that there was a pin hole in the pex causing the leak and the pex was easily accessible from the attic. $10 for the fitting and 20 minutes tops to cut the pex and attach fitting. A pex pipe cutting toll is all that was needed by the "pro"$250 is ALOT for most people,hence this DIY web site.
As for DIY folks valuing their time as zero,one can look it as paying themselves $240.00 for a 1/2 hr of work!
The OP should have DIYed if he or she didn't like the price. However, he or she didn't, and if they did, they would be responsible for any repurrcutions as a result of anything that went wrong with the repair, as opposed to letting a pro handle everything.

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Old 12-07-2012, 08:43 PM   #17
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Yes, sharkbites are acceptable. He did you right. I have used them, and will continue to use them. I do not like them, but hey, everyone does it. People ask me all the time if they paid to much. I give everyone the same response, " I do not know what type of arrangement you had" As to why he used a shark bite, we do not know the circumstances surrounding the call. It could have been 3 in the morning on a steep frozen platform 60 feet in the air. The plumber might of had to climb and wanted as few tools as possible. Maybe the crimpers would not fit in a really tight space. Your making a lot of trouble for yourselves and others saying a price was to much.
Do you put pipe dope inside of your shark bites?
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:50 PM   #18
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As long as an approved fitting was used and installed properly, I don't see the issue. As for the price, $250 sounds come rely reasonable: 2 hour minimum @ $100/hr plus a $50 truck charge. Sounds like he didn't even charge for materials. If you want cheap, hire a handyman. BUT, don't expect it to necessarily be done right.
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Labor 150
labor 70
Materials 30
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The OP should have DIYed if he or she didn't like the price. However, he or she didn't, and if they did, they would be responsible for any repurrcutions as a result of anything that went wrong with the repair, as opposed to letting a pro handle everything.
Please, everyone on this forum knows what it takes to make this repair.

Besides if I lived there, I would have! The part is only 10.00.

My point was about the fitting and its longevity.

No more no less!
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I don't get why you and others on this forum think $250 is outrageous. There is zero information on how far the plumber had to travel, how long it took him to perform the work, whether he has a standard minimum charge etc. As to the comment that you could do the work yourself for $10, that refers only to the estimated cost for the fitting and perhaps new PEX, it does not take into account travel time to and from the site, time on site, cost of tools and equipment etc. Seems to me that a lot of DIY folks value their time at zero, hence conclude that tradespeople are charging outrageous amounts of money because they do not (and should not) value their time at zero.
Probably because we dont make a Civil Engineers salary?
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Please, everyone on this forum knows what it takes to make this repair.!
Clearly not everyone knows what it takes to run a business, and the value of hiring a pro.
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Yes, sharkbites are acceptable. He did you right. I have used them, and will continue to use them. I do not like them, but hey, everyone does it. People ask me all the time if they paid to much. I give everyone the same response, " I do not know what type of arrangement you had" As to why he used a shark bite, we do not know the circumstances surrounding the call. It could have been 3 in the morning on a steep frozen platform 60 feet in the air. The plumber might of had to climb and wanted as few tools as possible. Maybe the crimpers would not fit in a really tight space. Your making a lot of trouble for yourselves and others saying a price was to much.

Excuse me but where did I ever say anything about the price being too much? I sighted what was on the receipt to you guys, thats all I know.

As is typical on forums, some of you want to defend your livelyhood and I understand that. My father in law that recently passed away owned his own commercial plumbing business for 40 years. He often spoke about how someone elses Shi* is his bread and butter! But he was fair about his work!

No doubt there are scenarios where a plumber is worth everythng he charges, but in this post, that was never the question.

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You do not have enough info to say the price was too high except the OP's vague description. I'm not saying it was a justified charge, however, consider travel time, hunting down or waiting for authorization, overtime/after hrs, finding a hidden shut off valve or curb stop, perhaps waiting on water dept. The list goes on..... and then we get into costs of running the shop- overhead costs the customer doesn't consider
These are things that happen on multiple calls- someone needs to pay for them. If its the plumber then he'll be out of bussiness
Lol,that's why I stated originally that he could have saved $240.00 doing it himself!
Not disputing all the costs involved with a pro.
However,the MAIN reason a lot of people DIY is because of the costs associated with pros.not the only reason but its up there at the top for sure.
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Clearly not everyone knows what it takes to run a business, and the value of hiring a pro.
Again the question was: is the SB repair an acceptable long term repair.

Besides, we can control if he ever works for us again, right!
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and if they did, they would be responsible for any repurrcutions as a result of anything that went wrong with the repair, as opposed to letting a pro handle everything.
Are you serious?
Repercussions?
Letting a pro handle everything insures no problems?
Get real!
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Are you serious?
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Letting a pro handle everything insures no problems?
Get real!
I never said there was a guarantee of no problems. However, a real pro will be insured and bonded in case something does go wrong. Thanks for qualifying my statement.
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Enough guys, I appreciate those that answered my question.
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Do you put pipe dope inside of your shark bites?
Not getting into the cost of business, but expalin this question for me.
We use them at work, but never heard anything about pipe dope first.
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Enough guys, I appreciate those that answered my question.
LOL- after all that, SB's are code compliant
I've seen solder joints fail prematurely too yet they also are code compliant...
So are SB's good for the long haul? I guess time will tell
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LOL- after all that, SB's are code compliant
I've seen solder joints fail prematurely too yet they also are code compliant...
So are SB's good for the long haul? I guess time will tell
Could they be as good as all that poly buytl stuff from 20 or so years ago?

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