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Old 02-03-2011, 10:31 PM   #16
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Is there a better way I could hook the humidifier? It is a small tube, kinda like an IV tube, I doubt they make any kind of fitting to go from 1/2 to that. I'm actually kinda skeptical about that saddle tap myself but figured if they sell it it must be safe... but guess I can't always assume. If I use it I will just turn the ball valve enough to provide a bit of flow so even if something goes wrong I wont have over 100PSI of water spewing everywhere, just a bit of a stream leaking straight down on the cement, being the worse case scenario. But if there is a better way I much prefer to go that route, just have no idea what and if I can even get it here.

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Is there a better way I could hook the humidifier? It is a small tube, kinda like an IV tube, I doubt they make any kind of fitting to go from 1/2 to that. I'm actually kinda skeptical about that saddle tap myself but figured if they sell it it must be safe... but guess I can't always assume. If I use it I will just turn the ball valve enough to provide a bit of flow so even if something goes wrong I wont have over 100PSI of water spewing everywhere, just a bit of a stream leaking straight down on the cement, being the worse case scenario. But if there is a better way I much prefer to go that route, just have no idea what and if I can even get it here.
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This is a sharkbite angle stop. Goes from 1/2'' to 3/8''. You can use a piece of 3/8'' copper (about 6'' or so) and get a 3/8'' x 1/4'' compression union to connect to the humidifier tubing. (humidifier tubing would be the 1/4'' plastic line that came with it) make sure to use the plastic ferrell and the brass stiffener on the compression connection to the plastic tube.
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By the way, sharkbites are for pex, copper, and cpvc. And you can use all 3 together on the same fitting if you want. It may be easier to connect the sharkbite tee to your pex and run cpvc over to the humidifier w/ a ball valve and a cpvc 1/4'' compression stop. You'll have an easier time finding cpvc angle or straight stops than you will the sharkbite ones.
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I'll take a look tomorrow when I go back to HD to see what they have as far as stops. Did not figure the humidifier tube was a standard size and that they made valves for that.
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It's the same size as an icemaker line.
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Cool so if that's the case it should be a fairly common fitting then.

Now if I can't find a sharkbite one, I might just go with copper - always wanted to learn to solder pipe, maybe I'll take the oportunity to learn now. What is the best way to go from pex to copper, if I end up needing that? I guess I can use the sharkbite coupler on copper, but wondering if there's a better way. That's just if I can't find a sharkbite version of the converter.
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Squirrel,

In your original post you asked if anyone had ever seen a Sharkbite leak. Yes I have. Some one (a well advertised plumbing franchise) had used a Sharknite Tee on copper pipe to install a expansion tank above a water heater. The weight of the expansion tank was putting stress on the tee and it had a slow leak. I removed the Sharkbite and the pipe was fully inserted into the fitting. I reinstalled but it still leaked. Removed Sharkbite and installed a copper sweat tee.

Not that I think the real issue was the Sharbite but the way it was installed.
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What is the best way to go from pex to copper, if I end up needing that?
They sell brass fittings to adapt from copper to pex. Be sure to intall supports for both the copper pipe and the pex tubing to prevent sidewards pressure/tension on the fitting.

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Squirrel,

In your original post you asked if anyone had ever seen a Sharkbite leak. Yes I have. Some one (a well advertised plumbing franchise) had used a Sharknite Tee on copper pipe to install a expansion tank above a water heater. The weight of the expansion tank was putting stress on the tee and it had a slow leak. I removed the Sharkbite and the pipe was fully inserted into the fitting. I reinstalled but it still leaked. Removed Sharkbite and installed a copper sweat tee.

Not that I think the real issue was the Sharbite but the way it was installed.
I could see that happen, though without any sideways pressure, they're usually fine right? When I tap into my line I will make sure there is not too much pressure making the pipe want to bend at the fitting.

Also a slow leak is not the end of the world (though it can still be a problem depending where it is), it's a sudden let go, that I'm more worried about.

I managed to find a 1/2 to 1/4 fitting at HD, so I will use that. It's similar concept as shark bite, but think I have to actually twist it.
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ONce you install a shark bite fitting can you rotate it, without compromising the connection, to better align the pex going to the other fitting? Thanks.
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I could see that happen, though without any sideways pressure, they're usually fine right? When I tap into my line I will make sure there is not too much pressure making the pipe want to bend at the fitting.

Also a slow leak is not the end of the world (though it can still be a problem depending where it is), it's a sudden let go, that I'm more worried about.

I managed to find a 1/2 to 1/4 fitting at HD, so I will use that. It's similar concept as shark bite, but think I have to actually twist it.
One thing I've always wondered about regarding using sharkbite fittings on PEX "hot" water lines. PEX tubing expands and contracts "much more" than copper pipes. So with the daily contraction to ambient temperature when hot water is not used, to maximum expansion when hot water is used, how long will sharkbite fittings on PEX "hot" water lines remain leak free?

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Old 03-20-2011, 12:09 PM   #29
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Yes I'm talking about the pex shark bites, and not the ones for copper.


Pex and copper have the same O.D. you can use the same sharkbite fitting on both types of piping.

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Old 03-20-2011, 02:16 PM   #30
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Did not know that at the time, but yeah it looks like they are compatible. Figured the ends were made different. Somehow, I would not really trust them on copper though... but seems to be what my contractor used for the kitchen, so guess it is accepted. I did not figure the teeth would be able to actually dig in solid enough into copper.

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