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Old 02-04-2013, 08:51 PM   #16
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:51 AM   #17
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Thanks Professor, I was going to suggest 4 lbs. or so of Comp C-4 or a 40 pound shaped charge. I think that's more on the order of what was required from the sound of it. Good pictures of clogged Galvanized pipe if they were yours. I cut a length of 2 inch out at my sisters house that looked like that, and my Dad, who is 93, sat out side the bathroom saying, "But he was a professional Plumber" "But he was a professional Plumber"

I said "Dad, being professional only means that you make your living at it, it does not mean you know what you are doing"
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Has anyone suggested contacting the utility or public works department or whatever branch of your municipality handles sanitation and flood control for the city. Often it is a service they will gladly perform for you. And they are skilled. Rooter guys told my son his lateral went uphill where it passed underneath a mature orange tree and the tree would have to come down to replace the line. What a crock It was backed up to that point but the hairball of roots was 90 foot from the house, 60 feet past the tree. I went up just as the were getting to the part of destroy the tree roots and halted the job. Retrenched around the tree. Glued 7 sections of abs together and let them sit for a week to cure 1000 percent and then dropped it in the ditch like a solid pipe with enough flex to sweep around the tree. At its widest about 4 foot from original.put a large wrench on 90 under fdn of house to align with new 2 way cleanout and bam, few hundred later new sewer lateral. Point being, give the city a call and ask. It can't hurt.(capped old with cement)
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Has anyone suggested contacting the utility or public works department or whatever branch of your municipality handles sanitation and flood control for the city. Often it is a service they will gladly perform for you. And they are skilled. Rooter guys told my son his lateral went uphill where it passed underneath a mature orange tree and the tree would have to come down to replace the line. What a crock It was backed up to that point but the hairball of roots was 90 foot from the house, 60 feet past the tree. I went up just as the were getting to the part of destroy the tree roots and halted the job. Retrenched around the tree. Glued 7 sections of abs together and let them sit for a week to cure 1000 percent and then dropped it in the ditch like a solid pipe with enough flex to sweep around the tree. At its widest about 4 foot from original.put a large wrench on 90 under fdn of house to align with new 2 way cleanout and bam, few hundred later new sewer lateral. Point being, give the city a call and ask. It can't hurt.(capped old with cement)
Thanks Dudley, No they have not. A very good suggestion. I ran a cheep snake in and do not believe I have a major problem. Thanks, Ralph
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FYI, Roto-rooter out here only charges 95 bucks to run a camera.


Unfortunately, you're tossing up whether or not you'll get any information out of that. I used them for my rental because our shop doesn't have a camera, and the answer I got out of them was "Yeah it was kind of murky so we couldn't really see anything"


What the @$^@? Unfortunately I was using a property manager at the time and he went ahead and paid the bill. I'd have told them to go pound sand.


Anyway : What's more useful in my opinion is to have a locate done on the line. They can trace the line out through your yard and once the locator won't push through any farther, they can mark it within a foot and you know where your problem is. Dig it up, figure out what's wrong and fix it. A lot simpler than what a camera can tell you about a clogged line. That is unless they can clear it first, then send the camera to see where the issue WAS.
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100 dollars for a snake cam. Maybe 2,000 for a great used one. Its the reason why all plumbers don't have one. There $$$
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Many times what you will find is a root buildup that looks somewhat like a hairnet consisting of many tiny roots woven together and more often than not entering or remaining in the upper portion of the pipe. If the rooter snake is not equiped with the right cutter head (ie, not large enough), the snake is just pushing the plug, which is usually solids and paper products hung up on the hairnetpast the plug and not actually cutting out the roots to near the wall of the pipe. They flop up out of the way and as the snake is removed they fall right back down. The old expanded spring end is not the best bet and unless the roots are very severe will only push the plug through for a very brief fix. Almost all houses her on the left coast over a certain age have terra cotta upper laterals. Most are mortar sealed but I have seen lead poured a couple times in a particular tract which was ww2 era and appropriately originally labeled Goverment Sub Division. One time the expanded spring pulled a hule buildup of roots and that is in the house I am in now. Water had been off for 4 or so years and waste flowed until I took my first shower and all of the sudden Toilet and tub topped about the same time. That was 99 and no root issues since. Also I know it is low tech, but salt also kills roots. Best bet though is to use the appropriate cutter head turning in the right direction to scour the wall of the pipe, and make sur you run all the way to the branch connection. Pull it out on surface if necessary and put a piece of visible tape on snake plus a half dozen feet to account for twist shortening of the line. Gotta watch those orto roothogs as they are not in it for the customer service but the comission. Preferably leaving your wallet as light as possible.

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