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daman3178 01-08-2007 05:04 PM

Sewer Floor Drain
 
Hey folks I have a question for you!! I recently had the sewer back in our house. With there being three drains downstairs it came up there. Needless to say it made one heck of a mess. In cleaning this up I have found out this has happened in the house before, we have only lived in this house one month; and the reason I know this is because I have found mold on the back of the sheet rock. Not enough to go crazy over but it is there. Anyways the line was snaked and cleared out but now I am afraid of this happening again. I talked to my local plumber and he is looking into a way to solve this but no word yet. The three drains are in the basement in the concrete, so no chance of adding anything on without breaking concrete. After some internet searching I found this check valve plug thing, it is called "Flood-Guard" It looks like it should work, but I was wondering if any of you have worked with one of these before and how well they work? They can be purchased pretty cheap and look pretty easy to install, I just thought I would throw it out there and see what you all think. Let me know!! Thanks!!

MgMopar 02-20-2007 04:54 PM

Is the problem still present or did you get it worked out?
Are you on city sewers or septic?
Did you get to try those check valves for your drains if so would you recommend them to others?
I had once helped install a main line flapper style check valve it seemed to work out pretty good for them. They had the city sewers coming back into there line. With a bathroom in there basement also having water pushing up the style you found would of not worked for them.

daman3178 02-20-2007 11:38 PM

Well right now I am still working on the room that the water back up into. Replacing the sheetrock since it got wet and there was mold on the opposite side showing me that this is not the first time it has happened. Anyways I haven't had the problem again yet, knock on wood. No I haven't had the chance to try these check valves out yet and not sure if I will. It would fix one part of it, but it would still come up through the shower drain and it is to much work to put one in there. When talking with my local plumber he suggested two things, one the flapper valve that you talk about. I really don't want to go that way because he said the only correct way of doing it is by basically cutting a hole into my basement floor and attaching it there. I am not for that because my basement is finished and it would screw it all up by doing that and plus you have to leave an access hole for it and that isn't something I want to do. The second suggestion from him was to just replace the whole line from the outside of the house to the main sewer line, oh yes it is a city sewer system. I liked that one the best and I also talked to a friend who had similar problem with his house about ten years ago when he bought it and that is what he did and hasn't had a problem since. I am sure the line is original since the house was built in 72' so I am sure the line is not in the best shape. So with that knowledge now that is my plan of action. Thanks for checking in and I hope this helps anyone that is out there with a similar problem.

Damon

MgMopar 02-21-2007 12:12 AM

The Sewer line I wrote of was backing up due to the city sewer being over taxed in a storm. the water flowed back threw the pipe into the home. A new sewer line to the street would not have fixed it and it is possible depending on your elevatation and how the sewers are routed you may have the same problem. We did not cut the floor on that install. I was a helper in the project but I remember it well because it was over 100 degrees on the two days we dug. We dug a manhole to the sewer line next (about 4 to 8 feet away) to the house. The hired plumber then cut into the pipe and installed the valve with large rubber couplers. Then he use dry brick (no motor) to make the sided round and slowly tapered in to the side of the concert top that held the access cover providing future access to the valve if required.

By the way those flapper valves are not fool proof ether debris stuck in the closing valve the and water can still get in! What always sucks about the water coming in is all the damage it can cause.

daman3178 02-21-2007 12:32 AM

I here you on the flapper valves, and my plumber had stated about the debris also. As for the back up, it was due to just a clogged line. I had a plumber come out and he snaked the line both ways, into the house and out to the main line. Nothing was found towards the house but there was stuff out towards the main line. To tell you the truth and I am sure if the wife see this she will kill me. The problem was her tampons, she had flushed them and they caused the clog in the line, “sewer mice” as the plumber called them. Also in her offense I talked to one of the owners of this house about three owners back and he said he had problems with the sewer back then. He stated that he would just have the line snaked once a year to be safe and that worked for him. So yes it was the wife, but it is also a bad line too I believe. So I guess I am also saying make sure your wives out there don't flush them thing down the drain, they will swell and possibly clog your line up!!

Oh yeah I also thought about digging up just outside the house too, not sure why my plumber didn't suggest that. Oh well either way I think I am going to replace the line when the money is there!!!

Damon

MgMopar 02-21-2007 12:36 AM

Ahh yea the "sewer mice" don't do those with septic systems and good ether.


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