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Old 01-16-2012, 11:02 AM   #46
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The tank is 1500 gal w 250 gal dosing tank. Dosing tank is pumped with easypak pump to 360' (4 laterals) of drain field.

So far, I've recorded 5-6 pump cycles per day at 46 gals per cycle. When the kids hit teen years, I'm gonna probably have to expand!

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Depending on the specifications and design of your system you may be able to get in more pump cycles over the course of the day, particularly in the wee hours. This might make it unnecessary to upgrade the system.
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The tank is 1500 gal w 250 gal dosing tank. Dosing tank is pumped with easypak pump to 360' (4 laterals) of drain field.

So far, I've recorded 5-6 pump cycles per day at 46 gals per cycle. When the kids hit teen years, I'm gonna probably have to expand!
The more I research, it is better to overbuild a system to compensate for the possible higher loads vs. underbuilding it and then having high usage problems.

I would go with a 2,000 tank minimum and even though my perc rate was .32, which passes for a conventional septic, I will go with an engineered system. While more expensive, the engineered system will treat the effluent a lot better than a conventional system would do. This protects the leach field from being filled with substances which will destroy the leach fields.

I found this system which looks promising:

http://www.orenco.com/sales/choose_a...nt_systems.cfm
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That advantex system looks Incredible. I was lucky enough to get a tour of a supplier about a month ago and see the system. They also had several jars of sample effluent from home and commercial systems on site ready for testing. The effluent is supposed to be clean enough for surface drainage- minimal turbidity and smell! The samples looked amazingly clear.
The only downside is that it must be monitored by state law (understandable if you're going to drain it on the surface). But that's not a big problem if that's your only option. Orenco has done some incredible work.
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They work very well and worth the investment. Soon they will be the norm,
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That advantex system looks Incredible. I was lucky enough to get a tour of a supplier about a month ago and see the system. They also had several jars of sample effluent from home and commercial systems on site ready for testing. The effluent is supposed to be clean enough for surface drainage- minimal turbidity and smell! The samples looked amazingly clear.
The only downside is that it must be monitored by state law (understandable if you're going to drain it on the surface). But that's not a big problem if that's your only option. Orenco has done some incredible work.
From my research it is one of the best systems out there. It also uses the least amount of electricity out of any of the engineered aerobic systems.

The key thing is that it treats the effluent prior to discharging it into the leach field. Leach fields fail because they get dirty effluent in the leach field lines, they then clog and fail, this system really cleans the effluent out prior to going into the leach field.

Also, as mentioned already, the effluent coming out is "clean" enough to be used for landscape watering use. The system makes the effluent coming into and out of the leach field lines much cleaner, therefore it does not cause the same groundwater pollution issues that conventional systems can cause.
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They work very well and worth the investment. Soon they will be the norm,
Also from what I read, I would go with the PUMP setup vs. the gravity setup. The pump system seems to be more efficient over the gravity system. Having the effluent pumped into the leach field works better than having it trickle in via gravity.
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They work very well and worth the investment. Soon they will be the norm,
Hi! I'm looking at buying a property where the engineer that designed the waste system specified an Advatex system for this site. Do you have any idea what cost range they go for?
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Come on Gary, stop hijacking someones post and get some local prices.
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Come on Gary, stop hijacking someones post and get some local prices.
Sorry, no harm intended, the thread was 8 weeks old (from the previous last reply) and I thought it had run its course.

The reason I'm asking is just for a rough budget -- can I afford the house/property/improvements/etc, or not? Should I figure $20K, $40K or what? I can start a new thread and, in any case, I assure you that this is ONLY for a rough budget -- no way I'd confront a real installer (who sees the site, sees any issues, access, whatever, knows the size of the house) with a rough budget amount from an Internet forum. This would be for a very rough ballpark number, only as a guide to an appropriate range.

Again, no harm intended and I could put this in its own thread if that'd be better.
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Still going to get the same ansewer. No one here has seen your site, going to know the local requirements, labor rates, material cost, soil conditions ECT.
Some people may jump in wth some really silly comments though.
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Well, if anyone had had one of these systems installed could tell me what it cost them, where little to no leach field is required and the bulk of the cost is the hardware, connection and burial of the integrated system, it would help.
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Septic tanks are always full
Always amazes me that people think they pumped the septic tank last year, and it's ALREADY full. People, you'll fill that 1000 gal tank in a little more than a week of average use!

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8 years here, 1,000 gallon, never pumped.

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use to the only time you needed to pump your septic tank was when it filled with too much sludge, that used to take up to 30 years for that to happen.
Definitely two schools of thought regarding septic tanks! The first is "leave it alone", and the second is "regular maintenance". I have seen both produce great results, as have you two!!

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Well, if anyone had had one of these systems installed could tell me what it cost them, where little to no leach field is required and the bulk of the cost is the hardware, connection and burial of the integrated system, it would help.
The reason why no one will quote you any ideas is the cost of labor, materials, machinery and the transport thereof, along with a thousand other variables, vary too much from location to location. Your best bet is to call an engineer, or maybe your local building code or health inspector person.
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Thanks Doug and Joe, like I said I was just wondering if anyone had personal experience as a customer of one of these systems, not to get a quote or estimate for one I would need.

I did follow your advice and contacted Orenco who gave me the name and number of an installer local to me. I'll talk to them today to follow up on the next step. Thanks again.

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