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kevind 11-18-2006 11:26 PM

Rusted-out closet flange found when replacing toilet; what to do?
 
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Hello, question from a newbie here. Recently I went to replace my toilet, and after I removed the old toilet I discovered that the flange was in pretty bad shape (see pictures). I was counting on a simple toilet swap, but fixing this may be out of my league. I'm comfortable replacing floor tiles, but I don't know about ripping up the floor and what not. Could someone give me an idea of what it may take to fix this?

Thanks,
Kevin

majakdragon 11-19-2006 06:51 AM

The pics are a bit dark so I cannot see the whole situation. You may want to consider using a "Super ring" repair/replacement flange. I have included a link with pics of one. They run about $9 and I think most Home Centers carry them. The tabs around the outside are for securing the ring to the floor. You MAY need to chip away a bit more tile to install one of these.

http://plumbing.hardwarestore.com/51...nt-606088.aspx

Ron The Plumber 11-19-2006 08:13 AM

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I brightened it up so we can see the problem, do you have access to the underside? I don't know why these type of flanges were made, this happen to them all the time.

kevind 11-20-2006 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron The Plumber (Post 24107)
I brightened it up so we can see the problem, do you have access to the underside? I don't know why these type of flanges were made, this happen to them all the time.

Well, it's on the second floor above the garage, so I suppose I can get to it from there. It's not possible just to replace the blue part, is it? I'd have to replace that entire section of PVC?

kevind 11-20-2006 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by majakdragon (Post 24100)
The pics are a bit dark so I cannot see the whole situation. You may want to consider using a "Super ring" repair/replacement flange. I have included a link with pics of one. They run about $9 and I think most Home Centers carry them. The tabs around the outside are for securing the ring to the floor. You MAY need to chip away a bit more tile to install one of these.

http://plumbing.hardwarestore.com/51...nt-606088.aspx

Thanks, I found one of these at Home Depot. Any idea how long this will this last if it's mounted on top of the old rusted part?

Ron The Plumber 11-20-2006 02:15 PM

The best way is to access the underside, replace it with a schd 40 PVC Flange, Thats what I would require if I was to fix this for you.

majakdragon 11-20-2006 04:21 PM

I am in agreement with Ron that the "best" way is to replace it, but, the Super-ring is an easy DIY thing. I am assuming that the original flange, although rotted out, was not leaking.

newbie000 11-13-2010 05:46 AM

same problem but on cement slab
 
i have the same problem. flange looks exactly what i have but it is on a cement slab. it goes into a 4in pvc drain. also 2 bolts that hold flange to floor just spin and do not tighten. i did have leakage as linoleum around floor was mildew or mold. question is do i need to remove flange and if so how?

Plumber26 11-13-2010 09:59 PM

If you do decide on replacing the whole flange, I suggest one with a stainles steel ring as opposed to the blue or red rings. And definately don't use an all PVC ring (garbage, cheap, builders grade crap)

atan1 02-20-2011 04:00 PM

I'm in the same situation, too, but the pipes are in wood subflooring. How does access from underneath help me? The floor has very little room around the pipe to access the flange from the underneath, but i think i am noticing the bottom of the flange's 4" pipe that connects to the main pipe. How is this flange (& 4" piece) connected to the pipe? does it yank off? cut it off? screw? and then how is the new one put on, when most of the pipe part is in the flooring? Also, am I risking leakage, as well, if I replace this ring-even with a good quality one?

oh'mike 02-20-2011 06:42 PM

If you can post a picture from the top and from the floor below,somebody will give you the best solution for your situation.----The steel or brass flange repair rings will work when installed correctly.--Mike--

atan1 02-21-2011 11:28 AM

Here are some images.
 
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how do I get the old flange out and what kind do I replace it with ? could it be glued in?

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atan1 03-01-2011 11:25 AM

I was hoping to get some feedback on this pipe issue. Does the old flange have to come out of the pipe and if so, do I just cut that section of the pipe out? It seems so complicated. I read about the guy in 2006, where he should just replace the ring. Is that sufficient? I have never had a leak, either. Please advise.

oh'mike 03-01-2011 06:39 PM

That look like an easy fix--go buy a new flange--a coupling and a short length of pipe--

study the depth of the coupling---cut off the old pipe so you can get the coupling --pipe and new flange into place---Make sure you have the correct glue and primer for that type of pipe.

Mike

vweater2001 09-22-2011 05:13 PM

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I'm having a problem with our downstairs toilet...problem is that the flange has broken screws. I've attached a couple of pictures that show what I have. It previously used to extra thick wax gaskets with the reinforced ring. We have only been living in this home for the past 2 years and just now discovered this under the toilet. :furious: What options do I have? How do I fix our flange so I can use a toilet? :(


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