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Old 06-29-2012, 07:19 AM   #16
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Some lime build up is what caused the thing to stick in the hole---you are almost out--so keep working on it--be careful not to gouge the brass valve body---it is just a straight hole with a couple of water inlets on each side---very simple valve---

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Old 06-29-2012, 08:15 AM   #17
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first mistake. I'm thinking when I was attempting to pull it out, I was pulling and slighty turning left/right to work it out. I'm betting that's why it snapped on me.

I will try and vice grip it this weekend and see where I get.

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Old 06-30-2012, 02:37 PM   #18
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i use a drill with a bit a little bigger than the screw for the handle hold the brass and drill without damage to valve body then use as a puller. the drill bit not allways will be stuck in there were i can pull back on the drill if that doesn't work i use bigger bit then a set of needle nose and very careful break away until i get it
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:03 PM   #19
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OK< I have an update on the current status of this shower controller cartridge.

I was able to get a pair of vice grips on the stub sticking out and the whole center of the cartridge pulled out. I am left with the plastic collar only. How the heck do I get that out????

I am attaching the photo of the inner piece of the cartridge that I pulled out as well as a picture of the remaining plastic collar that is still within. I am showing you two photos of the plastic collar, not sure if one shows the collar better than the other.

also, the shower is fiberglass, there is no tile at all....... (for what it's worth)

what now????
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:03 PM   #20
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also, even though i don't have the cartridge in yet, It appears that the set screw on the left of the opening, is not functioning properly. I turn it and it doesnt effect a thing. it just turns and turns. The one on the right effects the flow of water, like it should be. what is wrong with it?
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Old 07-17-2012, 06:21 PM   #21
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I'm back----

Did you ever get that last git of plastic out of the hole?

If not---you may need to make a hooked tool to grab that==

Heat and bend a thin bladed screw driver---or an awl or other stuff thin rod--

Gently drill out the back of the plastic--push your hook onto it and pull--

Clean out the valve body well with fine sand paper---

The screws to the left and right of the mixer may be water shut off valves--
Hard to tell with that white plastic cover blocking the view--
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Old 07-17-2012, 07:55 PM   #22
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thanks oh'mike

yes, the two screws on the sides are indeed shut off "valves". the screw on the left (hot side) does not turn on/off the water. nothing happens. the screw on the right (cold) works the way it should.....on/off. what do i do about the hot side? will a new cartridge fix it?

So, what is at the back of that plastic body??? Can I hit anything if I accidentally drill too far?

I did not finish this yet cause I wasnt sure what to do next........
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Just hook that plastic and get it out---the valve body is as deep as the cartridge---so you can drill a fair ways without going through the valve body---

Just make a hook tool out of a cheap small screw driver--and pull the broken plastic out of the hole---

The inside of the valve body is all brass--so any rubber or plastic inside is junk and needs to be removed--

As to the screw stops---be gentile and hope the open up when you are ready---they are fragile.
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Place a bucket over opening and try turning on the water for a while. Might help flush and loosen up things.
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I took a peak in the cartridge opening las tnight and noticed the plastic housing that is stuck only goes back about 3-4". there is like 2-3" behind it that looks to be only copper. im wondering if when i was starting out, i was pulling the cartridge and it worked its way towards the front which is why that plastic piece isnt towards the back. either way, it looks like i can get a hooked type object on the back side of it and hopefully continue to work it out.

I will try it tonight and see what happens. I am trying my damndest to not have a plumber come out. I can do this!!!
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You can----the plastic is junk--make a hook---just don't score the walls of the valve body---
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Here is a HUGE thank you from me, to all of you who have helped me through this process. It took me a long time to just sit down and "do it" until it was done.

I finished the bathroom faucet about 15 minutes ago. I couldn't pull the plastic sleeve out so I ended up taking a pair of needle nose pliers and breaking the plastic sleeve down bit by bit. After looking through the valve, I noticed that the rubber sides of the cartridge were actually caught up inside of the water openings on each side. Mainly the hot water side, which is why the hot water was not working for me. The water shut off valves both worked fine once I cleared everything out. I checked inside the valve after all said and done and there was one teeny weeny green spot of corrosion on the hot water side. So I scraped that off and all was squaky clean. The valve was surprisingly very clean!! Just that one spot.

The MOEN instructions said to place a drop or two of oil on the sides of the NEW cartridge so it slides in easily....it sure did!! Once I got the cartridge in, I proceeded to put everything back together (after 3 years of sitting ).

I now have my bathroom back and I am happy.

Again, thank you to all that helped me along the way. I GREATLY appreciate it!!!!

Till next time.........crankbait09
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Glad it worked out--this is a good thread---

Taught folks the value of a cartridge pulling tool

Also how to save the job if somebody doesn't know about a puller---

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