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Old 12-23-2012, 08:59 AM   #1
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I am in the middle of a bathroom renovation and found this wonderful gem when I took the old cast iron tub out. I am comfortable with everything except plumbing, especially for this project since once I get the tub in, there is no way to access the soon to be p-trap underneath.

My question is what do you guys think is the best plan of attack for replacing this drum trap. Please keep in mind this is a duplex I own and the remodel is in the upper bathroom, therefore there is no access to the drain and trap from underneath. I couldnt believe this thing hasn't leaked before, the old waste and drain were literally hanging there by a few strands of sealant.

Any and all help is always appreciated!
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Old 12-23-2012, 09:10 AM   #2
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A picture from further back is needed--showing the drain and vent----do get rid of that antique---they are trouble---

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Old 12-23-2012, 09:19 AM   #3
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Hopefully these pictures will help, if not let me know please and I can snap a few when I return.

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Old 12-23-2012, 09:58 AM   #4
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You will need to nip back the floor just a bit --then saw off the T---then cut the vent just above the cast iron---add rubber frenco fittings in those two places----and replace the whole thing with PVC--

Does not look like to bad a job---you will kill a few Saws All blades,however.
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Old 12-23-2012, 10:02 AM   #5
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Get rid of any of that old steel pipe you can while it's all open.
It will all leak at some point and it closes up o the insides as it rust.
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Keep the vents, everything else should be changed to DWV PVC. Use long sweep sanitary fittings, and fernco rubber couplings to adapt PVC to Iron.

Drum traps make a lot of sense, but they are not used any more. Too Bad.

Record exactly where your trap is, in case you need to cut an access door later. You probably wont need it with PVC though, as long as your tub has a strainer.
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remember that new trap that is not accessible is to be the glued together type trap
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Thanks for all the help guys, I think I am going to bring in a pro for this one, especially for the reason mentioned before, once the trap and pipes are glued and set, they become virtually inaccessible and I would hate to have a leak because of my poor work. Thanks again!
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You will need to nip back the floor just a bit --then saw off the T---then cut the vent just above the cast iron---add rubber frenco fittings in those two places----and replace the whole thing with PVC--

Does not look like to bad a job---you will kill a few Saws All blades,however.
Or just use a 4" cutting wheel like this http://www.lowes.com/pd_317411-70-DW...eel&facetInfo=
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Thanks for all the help guys, I think I am going to bring in a pro for this one, especially for the reason mentioned before, once the trap and pipes are glued and set, they become virtually inaccessible and I would hate to have a leak because of my poor work. Thanks again!
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Drum traps make a lot of sense, but they are not used any more. Too Bad.
I'd have to disagree. You can't snake them, they fill with crud, they aren't self cleaning, and most of the time the tops have been covered with flooring. Even if you can get at it there is no guarantee the top will come off.
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LOL, LOL Well, covering them kind of kills the purpose, don't you think?
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Never say never, I would not have a drain and trap system I couldn't access especially if I was renovating it. There has to be a way to keep that area open for access even if you have to frame in access doors or floor board removal.

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