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sis_odda 07-12-2010 09:52 PM

Replacing flange and wax ring
Hi, I was planning on replacing my wax ring because the toilet is rocking and I am concerned that it may be a little water under there.(or as my husband says I am just paranoid, that is why I waited to do this when he left town) It seems like everything in this house is just rigged up for quick fixes and nothing is done right. Any who the flange is not flushed with the concrete floor it is on top of the titles, however it is NOT moving. I was told that it needs to be flushed with the concrete. So my concern is do I leave the elevated flange there and just put down the wax ring on or should I definitely, pull out the old one, knock out some titles, and replace? My other concern is that if I do have to take the hard route, this old flange is Not using screws to hold it in place. And here in lies the entire confusion… what should I do? Suggestions please help…(oh and by the way my husband was wrong this is a little water under there

JDC 07-12-2010 10:21 PM

The bottom of the flange should be sitting on top of the finished this case, the tile. In addition, it should be screwed down to the floor. This can be accomplished with a masonary bit, a hammer drill and some tap-con screws.

benjamincall 07-12-2010 10:35 PM

Having the flange on top of the finished floor is normal.

I like to use an extra thick wax ring just to be safe.

If the toilet is not secured to the flange or if the flange is not secured to the floor, you have the answer to your rocking toilet mystery.

Afte you secure the toilet, seal the gap between the toilet and the floor with matching grout: *****scroll to the very bottom of this page for the Q&A about toilet flanges installation****

*Didn't see JDC's post* I concur with what he said.

sis_odda 07-12-2010 10:43 PM

Thanks soooo much for the quick response
The men at home depot made a big deal about it being ontop of the tiles... thanks sooo much for all your help... this means i can return some stuff to home depot and finish the job tonight...Thanks

majakdragon 07-13-2010 07:46 AM

Another scenario is the drain pipe is encased in concrete (the floor) and that is why they did not secure the flange with screws. Try grabbing the flange and try to move it. If it does not move, the floor may not be completely level and this is the reason for the rocking. You can find plastic toilet shims at Home Depot.

rockerjockey 07-13-2010 07:58 AM

Even though the piping may be in concrete the flange should always be secured with screws. It is all too common for the flange to break at the bolt slots if the closet bolts are over tightened or the toilet is not properly secured to the floor and is allowed to rock. You should check your old flange for damage in that area before resetting the toilet.

majakdragon 07-13-2010 12:28 PM

While I agree with rockerjockey, I also know how work was done. Not always correct though

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