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Old 11-07-2011, 08:14 PM   #1
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Hello all.

I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas about how to repair a break in the seam of a lead waste pipe(for kitchen sink) coming out of the foundation of my house. The break is right next to the concrete foundation wall. Attached are a couple of photos.

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I'm assuming you're asking for an answer besides the obvious one. Sometimes the obvious one however difficult it may be is the very best and only course of action. Are you sure it's lead? Orangeburg maybe?

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Rip it out. It's already dug up, what's an hour of jack hammering?
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I could be orangeburg - I am not a plumber and was not familiar with this material until just now when I looked it up. The pipe is sticking out of the basement wall so it is not dug up. It is about 3' below a concrete as it leaves the house. The hardware store suggested propoxy20. Any thoughts about this soulution?
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I could be orangeburg - I am not a plumber and was not familiar with this material until just now when I looked it up. The pipe is sticking out of the basement wall so it is not dug up. It is about 3' below a concrete as it leaves the house. The hardware store suggested propoxy20. Any thoughts about this soulution?
My thoughts about that solution :

Not really a good idea. It's a weak temporary fix at best. You can already see that the pipe is badly deteriorated. Fixing the leaking spot is not going to repair the rest of the pipe that is having trouble. You can't see if there are any more holes in the piping outside that are going to cause roots to invade and block the line off.

What size is the pipe?
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P.S. Hardware stores often suggest gluing PB piping with CPVC or ABS glue.
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My thoughts about that solution :

Not really a good idea. It's a weak temporary fix at best. You can already see that the pipe is badly deteriorated. Fixing the leaking spot is not going to repair the rest of the pipe that is having trouble. You can't see if there are any more holes in the piping outside that are going to cause roots to invade and block the line off.

What size is the pipe?
The pipe is 2". I caused the leak by a ham-handed removal of the old clean-out so that I could install a new one. I don't think I would have damaged the pipe beyond the concrete foundation wall. There is quite a bit of gunk on the inside of the pipe. What about an interior sleeve of some sort. The sleeve would not have to be very long to get past the break.
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AFAIK, Orangeburg pipe was never widely used as supply plumbing.
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If you can chip out a bit of the foundation wall, you can cut the pipe and attach a mission coupling but thats just postponing the inevitable if there is corrosion on the inside.
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AFAIK, Orangeburg pipe was never widely used as supply plumbing.
OP says it's a waste pipe.

Is it actually soft?
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Tangier are you sitting down? You have to replace the pipe in it's entirety there must be a reason you hit it and it split take that as a sign and replace it from where it starts to where it ends, don't forget your ground clamp to the new pipe. Somethings just need to be replaced, I know it sucks and money is tight.
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Tangier are you sitting down? You have to replace the pipe in it's entirety there must be a reason you hit it and it split take that as a sign and replace it from where it starts to where it ends, don't forget your ground clamp to the new pipe. Somethings just need to be replaced, I know it sucks and money is tight.
I appreciate all of the feedback - it is clear that the pipe needs to be replaced. Since I am unemployed and short on funds, I have decided to run the kitchen waste pipe through the joist/basement ceiling and connect to the drain pipe on the other side of the house. It will be much much cheaper and I can do it myself. Thanks to all.
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I appreciate all of the feedback - it is clear that the pipe needs to be replaced. Since I am unemployed and short on funds, I have decided to run the kitchen waste pipe through the joist/basement ceiling and connect to the drain pipe on the other side of the house. It will be much much cheaper and I can do it myself. Thanks to all.
Make sure you do something to appropriately cap/plug the old pipe where it goes through the foundation wall, so that you don't get sewer gas coming back through the line.
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Tangier are you sitting down? You have to replace the pipe in it's entirety there must be a reason you hit it and it split take that as a sign and replace it from where it starts to where it ends, don't forget your ground clamp to the new pipe. Somethings just need to be replaced, I know it sucks and money is tight.
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Make sure you do something to appropriately cap/plug the old pipe where it goes through the foundation wall, so that you don't get sewer gas coming back through the line.
Thank you. I would not have thought of that.
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that looks like galvanized iron pipe rusted out on bottom to me. take a screwdriver and play drums on top side, lead will thud like a wet noodle and actually dent (easy does it),,,iron will ring like a dinner bell

It will be cheaper to replace this line than run clear across house with another IF there us someplace to tie in , even with a no hub coupling.

Million dollar question,,,where does this line lead to???Are you on your own septic or city or central sewer???

Take a hammer and chisel and swing away for small hole to either find end of this pipe or Start of different type,,,like clay etc.

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