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Old 12-27-2009, 05:11 PM   #16
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I used the hacksaw method and it worked. Thanks for the suggestion. Saved a lot of unnecessary and messy drywall work in a tight spot.

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Old 12-27-2009, 09:36 PM   #17
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Thanks to westphoenix88295, I was stuck with the water supply to my house turned off until I could remove the compression ring to put a new bib on. This worked! I can't believe I had a hacksaw blade to cut into the ring, but I did.


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I know this is an old thread to revive, but I ran across this page on Google searching for a solution to the same problem. Just in case someone else comes across this page here is what I did.

I also have copper pipe (1/2") through the house. My washing machine valves are also attached with compression fittings. I may have had a little more pipe than you, but maybe not.

To get the nut back far enough to access the compression ring I cut the wall-to-pipe flange off with some wire cutters. Once the flange was removed I could push the nut back and slightly into the wall. I used a hack saw blade, not installed on the hack saw, to put a groove in the compression ring. I did this very carefully, cutting at a 45 degree angle to the pipe. Once I was close to cutting into the copper pipe I stopped. I then placed a flat head screwdriver in the groove I just cut in the ring and twisted it. The ring popped and I was able to slide it and the nut off the pipe. I then packed the new nut with plumbers putty, pressing it firmly into the threads. I placed the flange on, the nut on, the ring on, then tightened the valve to the nut. The reason I used the plumbers putty is because it seems to take up any space in between the pipe and ring, and between the ring and nut. You could probably use clear silicone also, but its more messy.
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Old 01-17-2010, 08:48 PM   #18
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I was VERY skeptical of removing a compression ring, especially using a puller...never heard of that before. Sure enough it's right there with all the other specialty tools in the Home Depot plumbing aisle, $10.50. Not exactly a pro tool, but it pulled 3 rings under my sink in just a couple minutes. So far so good, saved a lot of time...but what next? I installed some decent ball-valve shutoffs with new compression rings, tightened it all up and had the wife watch while I turned the water back on. No leaks! I admit I'm stunned that this works at all, much less 3 for 3 without so much as a drip. Your mileage may vary.
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Old 01-17-2010, 11:04 PM   #19
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I have copper pipe throughout the house. I need to replace the valves on the washing machine. The existing valves are attached with a compression fitting to a copper pipe which only sticks out of the wall about an inch. There is obviously not enough protrusion to just cut off the pipe and replace the valve. When I remove the valve, the ring and nut remain on the pipe. I would like to replace these since the nut is all corroded but It doesn't seem to slide off. Since the pipe is so short, I can not push the nut back far enough to get a hold of the ring. If I just pull on the nut, obviously the nut is further compressing the ring not allowing it to slide off. Is there a trick to removing these without damaging the pipe and without punching a hole in the drywall?
Usually the nuts on the comp rings are still good, just buy new comp valves
and use the old nuts, dis- reguard the new nuts
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Old 01-30-2010, 03:53 PM   #20
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I did go to the local hardware store (Ace) and buy the compression ring removal tool. The problem with twisting it off is that one might loosen a joint behind the wall where it is inaccessible. With the tool, the ring slides right off. $13 is cheap insurance for not having to worry about damaging the copper pipe.
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Old 03-25-2010, 03:08 PM   #21
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Used a gear puller. Worked like a champ!
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Old 11-23-2010, 09:56 AM   #22
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Hey you Tools, the compression ring used for house hold appliances, i.e dishwasher, washing machine, etc is called a "feral". You can find a simple small "feral" removing tool at Home Depot for $10....Now please, put away your blow torches and channel locks before your kids hurt themselves.
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Although I've been around the housing industry for years, and understand most of the materials and processes used, I'm definitely not proficient at building or repairing. I got into a lav faucet replacement project and decided to replace everything from the wall out.

The ferrel connections to the supply line valves just about had me buffaloed, but I came to this site and saw someone refer to a ferrel remover tool. Hmmm ... what the hell is that?

So, off to Lowe's I went and found one there for $19.95. I'm sure Home Depot or any of the other outlets also have them, but this store is in my neighborhood.

So, after a couple hours of futile cussin', dingin' my fingers, I then had the tool I needed. Saved the day! Thanks, gentlemen (and lady) for steering me in the right direction.
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:31 PM   #24
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Same problem, thanks to all.

I tried the sawing method to remove the old ring, but could not get a good angle across it. (This is a toilet supply, tight.) So next tried the slip-joint pliers method above, but with vise-grips. But no turn, did not want to make it tighter, so started going back and forth letting the vise-grips teeth erode the ring. The soft brass was turning to little chips pretty fast. I just tightened the screw thing gradually, and only tried to eat into a small part of the ring. It might have worked, but the heat or the motion broke the ring loose, yea, then it came off as above in the slip joint method. Then as others said, emery cloth, etc to clean pipe up, then new compression fitting. Little pipe dope compound (the non-hardening type) on every part of the compression fitting. Sweet, no leak. Thanks again for the tips.
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Old 06-27-2011, 09:01 PM   #25
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Used the Dremel to nick the comp ring. Worked like a champ. Be careful of your cut depth. Pulled ring off with fingers. Replaced with a sweat fitting (bathroom - toilet). 10 minutes for everything. Thanks for all the good suggestions.
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Old 07-13-2011, 10:23 AM   #26
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Thank you for these complete instructions; they worked like a charm. I had a mini hack saw and used that blade. I was feeling pretty discouraged with 2 plumbing problems going on at once and having success on something that seemed like I needed a plumber gave me the impetus to tackle the other job.

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I know this is an old thread to revive, but I ran across this page on Google searching for a solution to the same problem. Just in case someone else comes across this page here is what I did.

I also have copper pipe (1/2") through the house. My washing machine valves are also attached with compression fittings. I may have had a little more pipe than you, but maybe not.

To get the nut back far enough to access the compression ring I cut the wall-to-pipe flange off with some wire cutters. Once the flange was removed I could push the nut back and slightly into the wall. I used a hack saw blade, not installed on the hack saw, to put a groove in the compression ring. I did this very carefully, cutting at a 45 degree angle to the pipe. Once I was close to cutting into the copper pipe I stopped. I then placed a flat head screwdriver in the groove I just cut in the ring and twisted it. The ring popped and I was able to slide it and the nut off the pipe. I then packed the new nut with plumbers putty, pressing it firmly into the threads. I placed the flange on, the nut on, the ring on, then tightened the valve to the nut. The reason I used the plumbers putty is because it seems to take up any space in between the pipe and ring, and between the ring and nut. You could probably use clear silicone also, but its more messy.

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I used the hacksaw method and it worked. Thanks for the suggestion. Saved a lot of unnecessary and messy drywall work in a tight spot.
I had the same problem. I was changing out faucet and angle stops on a lavatory pedestal sink. Intended to re-use the ferules, but one of them was leaking. With absolutely no way to get the compression ring puller into that space, I was able to hold the nut back enough out of the way to hacksaw a groove in the ferule. A twist of the screwdriver broke it free. Thanks, westphoenix!
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Old 10-01-2011, 11:09 AM   #28
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With the pedestal sink done, figured I'd also change out the angle stop for the toilet. Oughta be simple - afterall, I now own a compression ring puller (that I was unable to use behind the sink)!

Although there wasn't enough room to slide the nut back fully, I assumed I could put the pulling arms of the device behind the nut, and pull both the nut and the ferrule off. Nothing budged. In fact, the arms kept slipping off the back of the nut when the center screw was tightened. So once again, I had to cut the ferrule off again with a hacksaw. Hacksaw Blade 2; Compression Ring Puller 0.
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I've never had to fully replace one in 4 years. Usually reusing the nut and ferrule as mike suggested in post # 2 or 3 works, and if it leaks a little, I smear some pipe dope on the sealing side of the ferrule and tighten it down onto a new compression angle stop.

So much easier if you ask me.
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Thanks, Alan. Reusing the ferrule and nut was my second choice. But, I was looking for a more spruced-up look, and made the erroneous assumption that given the clearance, a puller would work. After failing to get the nut and ring off with the puller, I opted for reusing the nut and ferrule. It leaked. Probably could have packed it with more stuff, but I'm pretty sure I heard the puller snickering at me, and I resorted to the hacksaw. It was ugly this time - the nut wouldn't back away very far, and I couldn't get a clean shot at anything approaching a 45 degree angle. It didn't help that I'm a right-handed guy working to the left of the toilet.

Frankly, I'd have had a lot more pleasure out of a $20 flu shot, than that puller from Ace. They may be good for something, but it was all I could do to keep from tossing it in to the recycle bin -- which, I may still do.

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