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Old 06-11-2013, 02:53 PM   #31
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The most dangerous practice with regard to natural gas, in my opinion was shown in the utube video about cross boring that someone recently posted. To run a gas line through a sewer pipe which has the very high potential of clogging up the owners sanitary system, then laying back the responsibility on the owner or plumber that goes to clear the clog to call the gas company in the event of a sewer back up is ludicrous, and the practice of blind boring should be banned.

The second most dangerous practice is allowing PVC to be used for gas. That is just nuts. It is way too easy to put a nail or a screw, or drill a hole through PVC, or copper for that matter.

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The most dangerous practice with regard to natural gas, in my opinion was shown in the utube video about cross boring that someone recently posted. To run a gas line through a sewer pipe which has the very high potential of clogging up the owners sanitary system, then laying back the responsibility on the owner or plumber that goes to clear the clog to call the gas company in the event of a sewer back up is ludicrous, and the practice of blind boring should be banned.

The second most dangerous practice is allowing PVC to be used for gas. That is just nuts. It is way too easy to put a nail or a screw, or drill a hole through PVC, or copper for that matter.
Did you really think I was serious about that? Even eplumber saw the sarcastic humor in my statement.....
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Did you really think I was serious about that? Even eplumber saw the sarcastic humor in my statement.....
I had to read it a couple times- I wouldn't think you would really do that
It took 14 posts for it to be commented on..... funny, people are usually called out faster then that around here.....
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On another forum it would have been a lot more obvious.....you should see the discussions that go on regarding using PVC for air lines.....you would have thought someone suggested using lamp cord to feed power to your house.


I need to dig up the pic of my son cutting some pipe thread.....only had to show him how to do it once...
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Did you really think I was serious about that? Even eplumber saw the sarcastic humor in my statement.....
DUH............ Its just that nothing surprises me today. There are new traps out there waiting for you though, out of round fittings, and poorly made threads in fittings, probably also from you-know-where. I went through three Els before I found a round one, and then it had stop and go marks in the threads.

Yes, big box store. Yes, I left and went to a plumbing supply.
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OK, admittedly good information. Now let me ask you one.

Since governmental agencies are down to the point where you need a permit to wipe your keester, why dont they insist on builders using safe materials, and installing gas lines that are large enough to allow for expansion? And why in this gods earth would they allow something as dangerous as blind boring of gas lines, which can end up with gas lines running through sewer lines?

This is a very good example of how people elected to Federal, State, and County positions could give a crap less about their electorate, and care more about the contributors to their coffers.

Follow the money.

It is a very good reason why campaign contributions should be illegal, but they never will be because the crooked Baskets that are in power would never vote against themselves.

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Just thought I'd post a pic of my son doing pipe thread.....

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Just thought I'd post a pic of my son doing pipe thread.....

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The company that installed my gas lines did a 24-hour air pressure test on them. How many DIYers would think of doing that??
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I am sorry to disagree with you, but that child is too young to be around spinning equipment. Kids have a very short attention span, and they are easily distracted.

Beautiful child, I would just hate to see him get hurt, and you would never forgive yourself if he did.
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The company that installed my gas lines did a 24-hour air pressure test on them. How many DIYers would think of doing that??
Thats good. A system in a single family dwelling or a system with a volume of less than 10 cub feet is only required a minimum of a 10 minute test. Is it possible the company you used was not confident of their install?

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Is it possible the company you used was not confident of their install?
The helper wasn't told to take it down when packing up the truck.
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I am sorry to disagree with you, but that child is too young to be around spinning equipment. Kids have a very short attention span, and they are easily distracted.

Beautiful child, I would just hate to see him get hurt, and you would never forgive yourself if he did.
And I'm sorry to disagree with your disagree......

I realize you don't know the abilities of my son...but....I was supervising his every move.....and that 'spinning' pipe is not spinning very fast. With all the pipe I have cut and threaded....about the only way to get hurt is if you stick you finger in the pipe and get cut by a burr on the inside....or drop the pipe on your foot.

Besides....how is a kid to learn if you don't let them try it.

Would I let him help me roof the house? No...

The best analogy I can give to teaching kids is with how do you teach a kid that fire is hot? We can tell them all day long but they won't believe us until they try it for themselves.

A good parent lets them get burned a little (1st degree)....a bad parent would let them get 3rd degree. All my kids have had 1st degree burns...and they stay away from hot things....and I don't have to tell them.

My kids are NOT going to grow up being part of the 47%.
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That kid probably gets more harm done to him sitting in front of a tv for 4 hours playing video games than threading pipe.

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