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Eagle One 09-24-2013 09:02 AM

Raise the drain stopper?
 
I have a drain stopper that sits only about 1/8 inch or slightly more above the drain flange when fully raised up. I want to raise this about another 1/8 inch or more but can adjust the pivot rod any further. Once the pivot rod ball is seated in the hole, there is no further adjustment that I can do. I have tried several times to insert the pivot rod into the drain stopper hole at the highest possible angle before tightening the nut but that is the best I can do.

Is there a trick to getting this stopper higher? I have thought of three things: 1. Buy a new stopper that is longer 2. Bend the part of the pivot rod that sits in the drain to a higher angle or 3. Just let the stopper rest on top of the pivot rod rather than inserting the rod into the stopper hole.

oh'mike 09-24-2013 10:12 AM

Is the hole on the stopper centered or is it off set?

If it is off set---make sure you install it with the hole at the front of the sink---

post a picture of the part if you can----Mike----

Eagle One 11-13-2013 10:34 AM

Finally got back to looking at this issue again last night. I pasted an image of what mine looks like but it only has the one square hole at the bottom instead of the two holes. I suppose if it had the extra round hole lower, that would give me the extra height that I desire.

I pulled a pop up stopper from another sink in the house and found that it measured 5 inches from top to bottom tip. The one in the sink that I am trying to fix only measures 3.5 inches top to bottom! I am thinking the only solution here is to get a new stopper that is longer and will extend out of the drain hole farther....unless there are any other ideas..

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31q11JkCIHL.jpg

jmon 11-13-2013 10:50 AM

You may be right, but before you do that, try adjusting the stopper linkage underneath the sink first. There should be a linkage that has a u shape clip on it with various holes. Something like this. Before you bend the pivot rod, try a different setting first, it may help. Start there. If you could, please post a pic so we can better assist you. Thanks.


http://www.homeadditionplus.com/imag...p_Stopper2.jpg

Eagle One 11-13-2013 01:06 PM

Actually the pic you just posted is very relevant. I have already tried different hole settings but the pivot rod and ball that fits in the hole is the key here. With the ball inserted into the drain pipe hole and the pivot rod extended all the way down inside the sink cabinet (the other end of the pivot rod would extend up at the highest angle POSSIBLE inside the drain pipe), the pop up stopper will attain its highest possible extention above the drain opening in the sink. When I have tried this, it is STILL not opened enough.

After trying some different hole settings, I realized that all my playing around with that was only afffecting the distance and tension on the faucet pull rod above and was not actually affecting the ability of the pop up stopper to extend higher above the drain hole. This was my original thought process but am certainly not a master plumber so I thought I would pose the question here to see if there are any ideas. After measuring, I think the stopper is just plain too short. Not sure who designed it but that is a major flaw.

jmon 11-13-2013 01:34 PM

I agree, it's possible the pop-up assembly is just not designed for that type of sink. Just thought it might have been something simple before you replace the whole pop-up assy. Stay tuned, others will be here shortly with more advice for you.

joecaption 11-13-2013 02:33 PM

That style stopper can be installed 180 deg. in two different directions.
Pull the rod out and try turning it and reinserting the rod.

Eagle One 11-14-2013 09:01 AM

Ok, even though I thought I had already tried doing this, I flipped the stopper around 180 degrees and I think I gained enough clearance to satisfy me and put this one to bed. For the previous few days, I just had the stopper resting on top of the pivot rod and really liked that setting but I think I can live with it connected to the rod now even though it is a bit lower than I would like.

Thinking about this more, if this stopper came with the drain assembly, it would have to have been manufactured to the proper distance from the pivot rod hole in the drain tube. Getting a new one that is longer would probably have just made it stick out of the sink too much unless it had multiple holes in the stopper where you can put the pivot rod. Talk about overthinking a simple subject...:tongue_smilie:

Thanks for all the comments.

Eagle One 11-14-2013 09:05 AM

One last comment on this...I think not having the two holes in the stopper (as shown in the picture) is part of the problem. The stopper for this sink only came with the square hole. If it had the extra hole that is lower, this would be easily resolved. I feel this is a manufacturing defect or design flaw for this particular sink.

TheEplumber 11-14-2013 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eagle One (Post 1266500)
One last comment on this...I think not having the two holes in the stopper (as shown in the picture) is part of the problem. The stopper for this sink only came with the square hole. If it had the extra hole that is lower, this would be easily resolved. I feel this is a manufacturing defect or design flaw for this particular sink.

You are really over thinking this whole stopper thingy :laughing:

If the water drains away- call it good and get on with life my friend :thumbup:

Eagle One 11-14-2013 12:10 PM

Well, that was the thing that originally prompted the issue...it WASN'T draining away quickly enough and pooling up at times...and it wasn't clogged at all. I attribute it to slightly bad designing on the sink curvature and the drain stopper and I will leave it at that and move on to the next project...:yes:

ddawg16 11-14-2013 12:28 PM

If you take the vertical plastic piece and move it closer to the drain, you will increase the effective travel of the stopper.

Just pinch that piece of spring metal and move it closer.

And....as already mentioned above....if you rotate the drain so that the hole for the rod is towards the front...this will also increase the angle of movement.


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