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01-19-2012, 07:50 AM
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PVC joint wasn't glued
Regardless of the type of pipe, steel, copper, PVC, ETC, ETC. most joints are held together by the inside of the coupling what you see on the surface of the joint really has no holding power. "It's what's inside that counts"
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01-19-2012, 10:24 AM
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PVC joint wasn't glued
get a slip PVC coupling for the diameter of the pipe going into the elbow hacksaw it in half.glue up the area in front of the elbow(prime it if you can 2" out)if not rubbing alc on rag and put them up against the elbow couple of radiator clamps to hold them and it is sealed..what water is going thru there off of filter... fresh house water... drain off? NOTE if you can find a slip coupling use a regular coulping and cut one side off and then in half just looking to seal PVC to the pipe and the edge of that elbow wher the leak is....heat up the tip of a screw driver  RED on the stove and press it around the elbow so it melts down onto the pipe....remember those plastic models kits and the stuff that held the parts....you had to clip out and ended up with the plastic framing...cut a piece of that light it and let it drip over the leaking joint working it around with a slightly hot tip.....screw driver OR rip it all out  and do it over again..  lets hear back what that pipe sees in pressure
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01-19-2012, 07:02 PM
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PVC joint wasn't glued
I don't have a real pic but I drew one.
biggles you talking about just upright melting 2 pieces together right? I can see what you described working as long as there's a good melt.
The pipe is used for draining and circulating, the leak comes when its on circulating not draining. I think it leaks when only circulating because it gets pushed a direction the water would rather not go so there will be a bit of pressure there, can't imagine too much though as the water is never stopped.
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01-19-2012, 07:32 PM
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PVC joint wasn't glued
Quote:
Originally Posted by robsworld78
The pipe is used for draining and circulating, the leak comes when its on circulating not draining.
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In the future when you do any PVC work... you'll leave room between fittings for slip couplings and such in case something goes wrong (it happens)
You're in the market for a 90, a Tee, and a valve at least.
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01-19-2012, 08:00 PM
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PVC joint wasn't glued
not really melting a fitting over it but 2 halves together glued over the leak point.so now i see the nipple is inside the elbow and the tee either find a coupling that would first(hacksaw in half)clam shell over those two fittings were they touch with primer and glue did you try to pinch that space between the 2 fittings since the elbow isn't glued..maybe a blow dryer to warm it up might move up a little...just throwing stuff out but if all the piping is locking everyhing in...  like i mentioned a super hot screwdriver and slide it around that joint so each side melts together? what about sawing that 1 1/2" drop on the left there then work the elbow out with a channel locks. how much room is there between the inside of that elbow and the left side of that tee..
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01-19-2012, 11:00 PM
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PVC joint wasn't glued
Take it apart at the elbow and glue it. From the drawing I don see why not.
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01-19-2012, 11:12 PM
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PVC joint wasn't glued
Take it apart at the elbow and glue it. From the drawing I don see why not.
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01-20-2012, 12:21 AM
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PVC joint wasn't glued
so that's what its called a "nipple"? The piece that holds to connectors together.
I can't comment any more on the situation because I haven't seen it first hand yet, my friend has the tank and says he pin points it to that joint, there is no room to move much because a panel with the valves coming through is making it tougher.
I'm going tomorrow and will get a real look. If the water is coming from there which it sounds like he has right then it can only be that a joint wasn't glued. I can't imagine a joint we did glue being bad because we used more cement then necessary and I did turn them when inserting.
Hardway you make a good point from the drawing it looks simple and yeah I have to say I didn't see that until I drew it up. But that only works if it was in fact not glued which I hope it wasn't, if its a bad glued joint then I'm worried and it won't come out.
Before I do anything I'm going to see if there's any movement there at all, everything is bumped as tight as possible and its a short run so all is very stiff and not to mention all the joints were nice and snug to begin with.
Now biggles you have me thinking, I hope its good. If it appears to be glued because its where to connectors meet I do have lots of plastic before going through so if I could melt the two together nicely it has to be good doesn't it?
The pipe would be one just like the cement does, not so pretty looking though but its all covered anyways. I do have a torch so I can heat up some metal to make some melts.
I'm thinking if I took a piece of thin steel and rounded to the same size as the pipe connectors I could heat that metal and pull it around half the pipe and hold so it melts nice, then repeat the other side. The band would be about 4" wide so it would be a nice even melt, probably look good too, using a screwdriver it could get sloppy.
Good or bad idea?
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01-20-2012, 06:54 AM
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PVC joint wasn't glued
just brain stormin' on this one..get some rubberized electrical tape(softer then typical tape) and wrap the nipple joint then a radiator clap around that....tube of super glue and small paint brush it around the joint....its a cirulator pump for a fish tank its not actual pressure like a sealed pump pressure can't be that much
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01-20-2012, 03:23 PM
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PVC joint wasn't glued
thanks, thats another good idea, I'm going there soon, I'll let you know how I made out.
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01-21-2012, 03:48 AM
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PVC joint wasn't glued
Well its fixed and fixed properly.
It was leaking as I showed and it wasn't glued so it was an easy fix. The other end just happened to be flex pvc so was able to pull it out, glue and reinsert with no problems.
Thanks for the tips everyone!
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01-21-2012, 05:58 AM
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PVC joint wasn't glued
that was intense...
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