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Old 07-22-2013, 09:51 PM   #31
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I am so not in over my head. I rebuilt my bathroom from the ground up with help from the pros on this site. Jim's downstairs bathroom project

And, isn't this a DIY site. If I feel something is beyond my abilities, it will hire a pro. In fact, the professional plumber I do use when I need one approved of this venting plan as did one or two professionals on this site in 2010 when I did my bathroom project.

Besides, you should have seen the intallation job the original plumbing subcontractor did. He had the shower anf laundry running into a common running trap through 1.5" pipes and the shower was at least 7 feet away from the only vent.

Any other plumbers or remodelors care to weigh in on this?
I will if you don't mind. I don't know how you guys plumb in NY, but I see multiple UPC code violations. Other plumbers (who I respect) here, I think would agree.
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Multiple (5) santees on their backs- should be wyes- I believe all plumbing codes state this
No vent of the top of the washer box trap arm- the vent you say serves it is not code- sorry
Pipe not supported at the ends of the runs, base of stacks or at 4ft intervals

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I will if you don't mind. I don't know how you guys plumb in NY, but I see multiple UPC code violations. Other plumbers (who I respect) here, I think would agree.
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Multiple (5) santees on their backs- should be wyes- I believe all plumbing codes state this
No vent of the top of the washer box trap arm- the vent you say serves it is not code- sorry
Pipe not supported at the ends of the runs, base of stacks or at 4ft intervals
Everything you see in this picture from that cut, duct taped end forward is exactly how the professional plumber that was subcontracted when this addition was built in 1990 installed it santees and all. He's long dead now so there is no holding him accountable. To the best of my knowledge, the contractor pulled a permit for the original build. I added tees, basically following what was done.

I can add a tee and a vent. Replacing the original tees with wyes would require some major rerouting. Maybe a project for another day. Keep in mind these are old pics, some in the dry fit stage and those pipes underneath are supported with straps.

The way you see it now is a big improvement over what I found when I first started opening things up.
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So I'm thinking I want to go above the ceiling following the path you see in this picture across the hallway and tee into the vent pipe I installed above the bathroom ceiling several years ago. where do I tee the vent in relation to my existing trap, trap arm etc? Could I add the tee right in the middle of that trap arm? Also, is it code compliant use a fernco tee there?
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Serious question, does it matter where on thos trap arm assembly I put the tee for new vent? I'm thinking either right in the middle of the arm or in place of the downturned 90 will give me the straightest pathway through the top plate into the attic. I see now that that run will suck the water right out of the trap.

It really isn't an option to bring it throught the roof because that would have it coming out in a bad place. And I would have to hire that out because that really would be over my head skill wise. But, in the attic, I can tee into the vent system already in place.
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Replace the vertical to horizontal 90 with a tee
Then pipe a minimum 1.5" vent to the existing vent and you're set.

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I suggest you pull a permit and have your local plumbing inspector tell you how to do it. All your doing is destroying your home value.
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I suggest you pull a permit and have your local plumbing inspector tell you how to do it. All your doing is destroying your home value.
I understand what you are saying about pulling a permit but the permit dept. is all but non existant in my small village- just one old man who works very part time. I've asked him about permits before and he pretty much told me not to bother with it. Most of the hired contractors around here don't pull permits which explains why I spent most of my renovation time correcting their mistakes. And, of course there is always the concern of having an inspection for this improvement and having the inspector find a lot more wrong with it.

Now I have to go into my crawl space and swap out tee's for wyes. The important thing for me is to have it up to code so I know it is safe and functional for my family to live in.

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Venting is probably more important then the drain. Perhaps if you look around you could find a new home plumber that needs a weekend job.

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