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01-16-2013, 11:31 AM
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Polyseamseal or GE Silicone II for bathtub caulking ?
I'm starting to research recaulking between my bathtub (cast iron with, I believe, the original porcelain enamel) and the ceramic wall tile. I had been planning to use GE Silicone II Bath & Kitchen caulk, but a friend is advising using Polyseamseal Tub and Tile Adhesive Caulk instead. While he agrees the silicone is flexible, he says it can fail to adhere after a while. He says the Polyseamseal has very good adhesion, and is easier to apply (not important to me, I can handle silicone). He says the Poly won't last as long as silicone, but what does that matter if the silicone pulls loose. On the other hand, I've read that Polyseamseal dries "like a rock," and I realize that at a plane change flexibility is needed. Plus it's a wet (but not underwater) area, which I know silicone is good for. What do people here think? Thanks.
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01-16-2013, 11:34 AM
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Polyseamseal or GE Silicone II for bathtub caulking ?
i'd go with the silicone. if the surface is cleaned properly the silicone will last a lot longer.
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01-16-2013, 12:00 PM
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Polyseamseal or GE Silicone II for bathtub caulking ?
Not sure what polyseamseal is, but if its urethane, it is food for mold. Silicone is not. Go color matched silicone.
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01-16-2013, 12:27 PM
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Polyseamseal or GE Silicone II for bathtub caulking ?
I like the polyseamseal better.
To me, it's easier applied, easier to work with, easier cleanup (water soluble till cured), and i've had some down now that's been good for five years +, with no problems with mold/mildew at all. Curing time is 24 hours and you cannot rush it. The thing i like best about it is when i get done, i wash my hands with soap and water and it comes off. Try that with silicone. As you can see from other posters, silicone has it's admirers too, so i guess it's a matter of opinion.
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01-16-2013, 12:28 PM
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Polyseamseal or GE Silicone II for bathtub caulking ?
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Originally Posted by jagans
Not sure what polyseamseal is, but if its urethane, it is food for mold. Silicone is not. Go color matched silicone.
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According to Loctite (who makes it), it's a water-based adhesive caulk which contains extra mildewcide. I've seen references that say it's a PVA (polyvinyl acetate) caulk. Thanks for your recommendation.
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01-16-2013, 12:32 PM
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Polyseamseal or GE Silicone II for bathtub caulking ?
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Originally Posted by DannyT
i'd go with the silicone. if the surface is cleaned properly the silicone will last a lot longer.
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Thanks, Danny. When I used silicone caulk in a different application a few weeks ago, I scraped away all the old caulk, cleaned the surrounding tile with rubbing alcohol, used 80 grit sandpaper to remove anything remaining and rough up the surface, then cleaned again with acetone. Is there anything else you would recommend doing to clean properly? Thanks.
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01-16-2013, 12:45 PM
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Polyseamseal or GE Silicone II for bathtub caulking ?
Your clean up sounds good---
Applying silicone neatly can be a challenge--- This is the method that counter top and tilers use to get a perfect bead---
Remember this---silicone will stick to any clean--dry surface.
It will not stick to a wet soapy surface---
For this you need paper towels and a spray bottle of 'Greased Lightning' household cleaner.
Start low and work your way up so no spray wets any area yet to be done.
1. Apply a bead of silicone --do not leave any gaps or air pockets--
2. Spray the bead and surrounding area with Greased Lightning
3. Spray your finger
4.Tool the joint with your finger
5.remove excess to the paper towel
Do an experimental test----I believe you will like this technique.
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01-16-2013, 01:28 PM
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Polyseamseal or GE Silicone II for bathtub caulking ?
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Originally Posted by oh'mike
Your clean up sounds good---
Applying silicone neatly can be a challenge--- This is the method that counter top and tilers use to get a perfect bead---
Remember this---silicone will stick to any clean--dry surface.
It will not stick to a wet soapy surface---
For this you need paper towels and a spray bottle of 'Greased Lightning' household cleaner.
Start low and work your way up so no spray wets any area yet to be done.
1. Apply a bead of silicone --do not leave any gaps or air pockets--
2. Spray the bead and surrounding area with Greased Lightning
3. Spray your finger
4.Tool the joint with your finger
5.remove excess to the paper towel
Do an experimental test----I believe you will like this technique.
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Thanks for the advice, oh'mike. Sorry, I should have previously mentioned, when I did some silicone caulking a few weeks ago I used a product called GE Caulk Smoother. It made working with (and cleaning up) the silicone much easier. I assume that product is similar to what you recommended?
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01-16-2013, 01:35 PM
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Polyseamseal or GE Silicone II for bathtub caulking ?
I never heard of that----20 years ago I complained to an old tile setter that silicone was a mess to work with.
He showed me how the pros did it----
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