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Old 06-27-2007, 10:10 AM   #1
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I am having a plumbing issue and have been trying everything I can to fix it myself, because I am short on funds right now. I would appreciate any help you can offer.

Most times (though not every time) I flush the guest bathroom toilet (or use the guest shower), water leaks out all over the guest bath floor AND master bath which is on the other side of the house. This is even with the water valve turned OFF in the guest bath. When the water is turned ON, the water just keeps filling up the back of the toilet and won't stop until I turn off the valve. The floater seems to be working - it floats up, but the water goes right over top of it anyway!!

I tried snaking it, plunging it, and have checked the flapper and all parts in the back of the toilet to no avail. Everything seems to be ok.

I did find in my master bath this morning a big, white plastic washer in the FRONT port of the toilet bowl and managed to get it out. How could THAT get in there? Any ideas? Could that have been what was clogging up the line and if so, WHERE did it come from and does it need to go back? LOL

Help please - I'm just a girl who owns a house by herself and try my damndest to do everything on my own (even if it means asking for help on the net) ;-) Thanks!!!!!!
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Old 06-27-2007, 10:15 AM   #2
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if you dont know how to replace a toilet yourself...what you can do is:...

go down to your local bar and sit in your car in the parking lot and wait for a plumbing van to pull in....go inside and hit on the driver....then next morning when he wakes up at your house and goes in to pee, he will discover that you have a bad toilet and have no choice but to fix it.
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Old 06-27-2007, 10:41 AM   #3
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I don't think I'll be stooping to THAT kind of desperation, but thanks for the laugh. Actually, a plumber has been asking me out and I want to, I've just been really busy - maybe it's time to make that a priority. LOL

So are you saying you think the problem is I need a new toilet?? What about the washer that was stuck in the OTHER toilet (the one that seems to have NO problems unless I flush the other)??

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Old 06-27-2007, 11:14 AM   #4
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ts9,
I'm not a pro plumber, just a long-time DIYer.
A. To help yourself, first install a new toilet tank water inlet valve in the guest bathroom. Use a 400A Fluidmaster valve (about $5-$6 bucks). They come with easy illustrated step-by-step installation instructions and almost anyone can do it. You also may need a new flapper. That should take care of the constantly running toilet.
B. The leaking in the main bath area whenever water is running and draining from the guest bathroom suggests that you may have a connected drain pipe leak in the main bath area. Is your home is over a basement or crawlspace where you can get under the main bath to see where it is leaking?
If so, go under there and get a friend to run water in the guest bath to make it leak in the main bath area. Tell us what you see, and we will try to help you from there.
If all else fails, call that plumber. LOL
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:02 PM   #5
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I REALLY appreciate your taking the time to reply to me. :-)

I did actually replace the entire tank mechanism myself about a year ago. Would it have gone "bad" this quickly? I figured I was okay in that regard, since it was replaced recently.

I am on a slab and there is no crawlspace to go under. Any other ideas?

Will rid-x do anything to help? I am on a septic system, but it was pumped 7 years ago and as I said, it's just me, so not sure if it would be full just yet.

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Old 06-27-2007, 12:11 PM   #6
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When I said I found a big, white, plastic "washer," I realize I miswrote. It was actually a threaded nut. How did that get in there??
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By your description (If I'm reading it properly), it seems to me that there's a clog in the town sewer main out in the street. I once got a call from a guy in a very similar situation. I got to his house fairly late, and sure enough, the tub (lowest point in the house) was full of waste water. I snaked his sewer out to the street to no avail. Then I started to notice that the water was rising fairly quickly.

I noticed his house was the lowest building on the street, and there are 2 restaurants upstream of this house. The dinner crowd was shuffling in and the water usage along the street was spiking up. I realized the town sewer main must be clogged downstream of where this house tied into it, and ALL the water being used by all the other buildings upstream of this house was going to end-up in this poor guys house.

Long story short, he had to get the town DPW/sewer department out there to clear the sewer main.
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did the problem get better once the big white nut came out ? I am not a plumber either but do have a slab house and the only thing I can think of right off that that sounds like is the nut off the tiled shower drain I could be wrong ,I have been wrong a few times in my life but just trying to help
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A non-stop running toilet is usually either due to a bad water inlet valve or a bad flapper that isn't sealing, or both. Replace both (they're very inexpensive), and that should solve the problem.
Rid-X and all other additives are a waste of money. Numerous independent research studies have shown that normal usage will provide all of the bacteria ncessary for proper septic operation.
Can you tell where the drain water is coming from in the main bath? From under the sink? A large white plastic nut could be a slip nut from a sink drain assembly. ???
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Most times (though not every time) I flush the guest bathroom toilet (or use the guest shower), water leaks out all over the guest bath floor AND master bath which is on the other side of the house.
Are you saying the toilet bowl overflows in both the master and guest baths?
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Read her posts again and then tell her to have the sewer line to the city cleaned out
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Read her posts again and then tell her to have the sewer line to the city cleaned out
Well...she said water leaks out all over the floor in both the master and guest baths even if she turns off the toilet(s?). I don't exactly know how that happens unless there's a clog either in her building drain or the main sewer. If she has a bad flapper and/or ballcock, the toilets would run-on endlessly, but they won't overflow unless there's a clog in the waste line somewhere.

But that's why I began by saying, "If I'm reading this correctly...". She didn't say where or how the water was leaking all over the floor. Is it coming up through the shower/tub drains? (which would indicate a clog in the main drain), or is it overflowing the toilet bowl rims while the lower drains at the tubs/showers remain dry (which would indicate clogged toilets only - and isn't very likely: TWO clogged toilets? - No).

She said she replaced some stuff fairly recently (which is probably where that white plastic nut came from), so they should be working fine unless she used the wrong flapper and/or failed to make proper adjustments; or there could simply be some debris or sediment caught in the ballcock that won't allow it to shut-off...which again wouldn't, by itself, cause water to leak all over the floor.

Since I knew I wouldn't be monitoring the forum all night, and couldn't get answers to my questions, I related a story that seemed similar.

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I have to say this is one of the "most difficult to understand the situation" post, but a single lady is asking... who doesn't want to help... it is the nature...
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I take it we have not found out what the problem is or even if it got fixed yet.I for one would like to know since it has so many scratching their heads
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Where was ot leaking at? Base of toilet? Between the Tank and Bowl? As far as fill valve not shutting off, that sounds like debris stuck in valve.
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