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Old 08-22-2013, 02:54 PM   #16
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I bet there are some professional plumbers that would have to research that issue...

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Lol.. I wouldnt call them professionals then its a basic question really and some simple math..

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1/8" = 0.125 * 130' = 16.25' + 6.167' = 22.417' or 22' 27/64" is the elevation at the house. And yes I did google the decimal to fraction conversion, it's been along day.

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If i install a sewer in your home and the run is 130' at 1/8 of slope from your home to the street and the invert elevation at the street is 6'2" what is the invert elevation at your home?

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Maybe on a scrap piece of lumber with a #2 pencil.....
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16.25" correct your invert elevation at the house is 7'6" 1/4 vi great job..the calculation is 130/8=16.25" pretty simple if you understand and know how to snswer the question.it goes to show you why plumbing is not so easy for non plumbers.. Obviuosly we make it look easy because after all we did go through the proper training and schooling. Eplumber is right a simple mathematical calculation like that would take us 5 mins with some scrap paper and a pencil

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Well I have plumbers crack nailed down like I studied for years.
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I bet there are some professional plumbers that would have to research that issue...
Well, if they had to, I certainly wouldn't hire them. That's a simple math problem I could have solved in the fifth grade. But venting requirements, now that's another story. I designed the layout and plumbed my house three years ago; it passed inspection on the first try. But I've already forgotten most of what I had to learn to do it correctly. And I learned only what I needed to know, certainly not everything a pro needs to know. They take a lot of crap (figuratively speaking) but I have great respect for professional plumbers.
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Im a bit perplexed by your statement especially coming from a veteran plumber and inspector. The main goal is to make sure the job is done correctly and to code certainly not to encourage inspections to appease the municipalities,thats the reason why we pull permits for jobs in the first place. its a safeguard to make sure everything is done up to professional standards by your logic than ho should tackle their plumbing on their own and you would help them do so... Seems like your not doing right to the ho and your fellow plumbers..we also have ho permits in my state and it gives the ho a false sense that important items such as plumbing can be accomplished by novices..
How do you propose as an inspector to make sure it is done correctly if happy homeowner does not pull permits? Since you will not even see the job. Unless you plan on playing gestapo. But here we have property rights and as an inspector I cannot enter your property. I have to see from the street that work is happening without a permit. Then I can issue a adjudication order. I feel it is better to just get it done right under a home owners permit. Believe me I inspect strictly to the code. But I got into the house. Unlike your approach.

A homeowners permit is just that. It cannot be used by someone charging for work and without a license.

MY major concern is the public health not contractors getting jobs. Sorry but that is the way it is where I work. We are a health department.

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