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Old 03-05-2012, 07:41 PM   #1
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Why would a plumber cut completely thru the floor joist and just leave it hanging in midair?
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Old 03-05-2012, 07:43 PM   #2
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Why would a plumber cut completely thru the floor joist and just leave it hanging in midair?
I give up why...need more info
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Old 03-05-2012, 07:48 PM   #3
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I know! I know!

Because they don't know the notching and boring rule as it applies to code and they are a freak'n HACK!!!!

Can anyone say structural integrity?
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Just ran into it in this house. We were replacing the subfloor next to the bathroom wall because there was a swag in the floor. When we tore up the old plywood we found about a 6" gap between the joist that the plumber had cut to run a pipe up. Always wondered why the bathroom floor felt a little wobbly behind the toilet. Who does that? No support, nothing! just hanging there in midair, Guess he thought the plywood would hold it up? I don't understand the mentality.
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Just ran into it in this house. We were replacing the subfloor next to the bathroom wall because there was a swag in the floor. When we tore up the old plywood we found about a 6" gap between the joist that the plumber had cut to run a pipe up. Always wondered why the bathroom floor felt a little wobbly behind the toilet. Who does that? No support, nothing! just hanging there in midair, Guess he thought the plywood would hold it up? I don't understand the mentality.
plumber 101 answered it ..they are freaking hacks.....
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Old 03-05-2012, 07:56 PM   #6
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are you sure there was not drywall under it to give structural support
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Found that out, for sure. We had to get preformed footers and short jack posts and put one on each side of the joist, and boy we were barely able to get them in around all the water and sewer lines. He left no room at all. Looks like his stack pipe or something. It threw a swag in the floor in the bath and also the room next to it. We are gonna run 2 more joists on either side to make sure, no more trouble out of it. Do you plumber guys out there see this often?
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You would be very surprised how many times that I go into a home and find the very same thing you are describing. The best of plumbers take the trade seriously about 10% I would guess and the other 90% cause the 10% to have a bad name.

The thinking is "I got to this this pipe to there" but don't think it through as far as structural integrity. Hope they have good insurance.
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Leave it to the framer for putting a joist under the wc or wet wall. Don't they know where the pipes go? They should learn to header those
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I did not expect to run into that! Was trying to get the new subfloor down so the flooring guys could come. 3 day weekend shot fixing that and of course, subfloor will be another weekend. I couldn't believe it.
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See it all the time. No good reason for it. Some people just do not care.

Not sure why the big set back time, a couple of blocks for headers and your good to go.
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Guess the framer thought it needed joists 'cause it was a double plumbing wall, 2- 3-1/2" walls put together for a total of a 7" wall. So, he put 2 joists there sistered and the plumber cut thru both of them with what looks like a sawsall from the shape of the cuts.
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Thanks joe, but you coulnt get headers in for all the water lines and plumbing. we barely found a 3" space to put a short jack post and then we had to dig the preformed footer in completely with a shovel under the house to miss the clean out, and haul the dirt up in 5 gallon buckets. I hope this plumber gets 3 rooms and a path for a long while.
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ok! thanks guys! I got it out of my system. At least it is fixed now! whew! At least I got a few holes filled in the back yard my little beagle dug with the buckets of dirt. Just late on the Mon of our 3 day weekend, and frustration because of running into all that.
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I see many exterior 2x4 walls with 3" notches in them,we should start a post about butchered framing pictures!
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