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Old 05-10-2013, 05:48 PM   #1
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Dropping a SS sink onto a formica countertop, cut the hole, and was gonna smear classic plumbers putty and squish it down as usual. Then, one just pulls of the excess putty real nice.

Then, buddy says get with the times, bro, use silicone. Geez- silicone- what if I make a smearin mess of it? How can one put the right amount on the bottom groove of the SS sink (which, im my opinion, was engineered for putty) so that it wont ooze out soooo bad?

Is putty still the favorite, people? Please tell me yes, Man!

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Putty is fine and as you noted a whole lot easyer to clean off.

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People,

Dropping a SS sink onto a formica countertop, cut the hole, and was gonna smear classic plumbers putty and squish it down as usual. Then, one just pulls of the excess putty real nice.

Then, buddy says get with the times, bro, use silicone. Geez- silicone- what if I make a smearin mess of it? How can one put the right amount on the bottom groove of the SS sink (which, im my opinion, was engineered for putty) so that it wont ooze out soooo bad?

Is putty still the favorite, people? Please tell me yes, Man!
plumbers putty..plumbers putty..plumbers putty...plumbers putty...always plumbers putty...ben sr
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Unless you want to simply throw away the whole counter-top if you need to or decide to change out the sink, use plumbers putty.
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Allow me to throw a curve ball-

In nearly 30 yr.s of plumbing, none of the shops I worked for required applying putty on sinks- only faucet bases.

Also- UPC requires all fixtures to be caulked to their mounting surface- be it counter tops, floors or walls. I have gone through re-inspections because toilets were not caulked to the floor.
We don't use silicone for caulking either- we use Dap (water base)
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I actually would use silicone. I suppose plumbers putty would work.
A:, I would apply a adequate bead of silicone to allow a little squish out bot not make a mess.
Simply clean it up as needed as you go. I have done many sinks with silicone.
Honestly, In 20 years of setting sinks, I have never heard of plumbers putty as even a choice.
While I write this, I can not think of anytime that I removed a sink and it was sealed with plumbers putty.
Plumbers putty is absolutely not even on the list of potential items in my truck I would use to set a sink with. I would use it to set the drains of the sink, but not the sink.
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silicone all the way and the easiest way to get a clean line with a little time using this tool you will use it every time you need to seal or caulk
http://orders.homaxproducts.com/Brow...Caulk-Finisher
and to wipe finger and tool i always use toilet paper "wipe and fold"
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Allow me to throw a curve ball-

In nearly 30 yr.s of plumbing, none of the shops I worked for required applying putty on sinks- only faucet bases.

Also- UPC requires all fixtures to be caulked to their mounting surface- be it counter tops, floors or walls. I have gone through re-inspections because toilets were not caulked to the floor.
We don't use silicone for caulking either- we use Dap (water base)
Same here. Agree 100%.

Have pulled a few sinks up in the past few years with putty underneath the rim. It seemed to work, but the sink was in pretty nasty looking shape around the rim by the time I got there. Not to mention : what a mess that makes.
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Allow me to throw a curve ball-

In nearly 30 yr.s of plumbing, none of the shops I worked for required applying putty on sinks- only faucet bases.

Also- UPC requires all fixtures to be caulked to their mounting surface- be it counter tops, floors or walls. I have gone through re-inspections because toilets were not caulked to the floor.
We don't use silicone for caulking either- we use Dap (water base)
here is another curve ball...in 40 yrs never ever had 1 inspection dealing with what the sinks are installed with...caulking or putty. my requirement is faucets..putty....china sinks and bowls set to formica silicone under rim ....kitchen sinks ss putty ..easy clean up...kitchen sink china or other silicone under rim ... water closets latex base caulking ..top of china latex based ...all with a neat finish..ben sr
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here is another curve ball...in 40 yrs never ever had 1 inspection dealing with what the sinks are installed with
You should meet my new inspector. He was wanting to know why we didn't just prefab our drainage plumbing for the slab job we are working on, and also wondering on one of our wood floor systems why the clotheswasher drain was out of the wall.

"It isn't"

"bullsh*t"

"Does it matter? I have to fix it if it is, not you."

"That's true...."



Never met anyone like him before.


Who CARES how I do it. If it meets code, sign it off and get out of my face.
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You should meet my new inspector. He was wanting to know why we didn't just prefab our drainage plumbing for the slab job we are working on, and also wondering on one of our wood floor systems why the clotheswasher drain was out of the wall.

"It isn't"

"bullsh*t"

"Does it matter? I have to fix it if it is, not you."

"That's true...."



Never met anyone like him before.


Who CARES how I do it. If it meets code, sign it off and get out of my face.
well alan have heard about inspectors like that..just glad I don't have to deal with them ..our inspector is really cool he knows what meets the code and why its in place...he also knows what we have to deal with in the field..he is flexiable.....sorry you have to deal with a pia..ben sr
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First of all, to get our definitions really correct, The difference between "Caulk" and "Sealant". "Caulk" is not elastomeric, wherein "Sealant" is.

Apparently, Those of you who set sinks in silicone never had to go back and remove them, because if you did, you would be cursing yourself to hell. I know that's what I was doing to the Bast**d who set the sink in my current home.

I really don't care what the code says in this case unless of course they really do not mean a structural adhesive like silicone to install a top mount sink. I would not use anything but plumbers putty for this task, and I would not use silicone because I care about the guy that might be following me, and might want to change the sink.

So this is one of those agree to disagree deals. Fine with me. I was taught by an old mater plumber never to use adhesive sealant on a sink, in case you have to remove it, and he knew his s**t.
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The OP was addressing SS sinks-and putty is fine, but I'd tell you to put it away
But the thread evolved to various types of sinks including self rimming china- Putty will not hold them in place. In fact the sink comes with adhesive caulk to anchor it.
Once the fixtures are tested we caulk them with Dap- done deal
As for the poor guy that has to pull the sink- he better bid it in, along with a disclaimer about broken P-lam. Same goes for urinals- ever try to pull one of those for cleaning? It's all just part of the job......
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Just installed a SS sink yesterday for a friend of mine. It was a Sterling, made by Kohler. Right in their directions they say to use silicone sealer. I did, and it wasn't a problem. As far as it being an adhesive and not being able to get the sink out later, take the clamps off from underneath, slide a razor knife under the edge and it will come right out.
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