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Old 08-30-2013, 12:40 AM   #1
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Please verify this professional plumber bill is normal and done properly and fairly.


I've never hired a plumbing contractor before, so perhaps someone can just verify for me this is fair:

Call was for broken hose bib. Hose bib replaced, still didn't work. Claimed blockage in line. I said to go ahead and replace it, he wired hose bib to another outlet on the pressure tank and everything worked.

Arrival 8:10
Departure 9:00 (to get PVC pipe/connectors/parts).
Return: 9:40 (with parts)
Departure 10:30

Bill received:
3 hours labor
$80 for parts (seemed like hose bib + 10-15 feet in 3/4 PVC). -- probably marked up 20 maybe 30% is my gut instinct...

So the questions are:

1) Is it normal to pay for the supply house run time?
2) Is it normal to round up to the nearest hour vs 1/2 hour increments in the hourly rate?

Don't get me wrong I'm satisfied with the work, and will call them back for more. They were quite efficient considering all that needed to be done. Obviously, when a $100 quote (replace hose bib) turns into a $300 repair, it does turn into something unexpected. I didn't expect it to be 3 hours of labor, quite frankly. I do not know what is standard and fair in this industry.

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Old 08-30-2013, 06:20 AM   #2
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That is normal. He showed up with the parts needed for the original work order------the scope of work changed and more parts were needed for your job.----

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Sounds right to me, usually if a plumber has to run for parts you will have to pay for the time especially if unforseen issues arise..
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The only thing that seems a bit high to me is the $80 for parts. Of course there is a markup, probably a typical 20%, but the total still seems high for a simple hose bib. Since you're satisified with the work, I wouldn't press the issue.
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You mentioned an arrival time but it seems you didn't account for his travel time to the job. This is not an uncommon charge- perhaps 30 minutes? So maybe his clock started at 7:30

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Old 08-30-2013, 02:17 PM   #6
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That's how it is and makes you wanna become a little more proficient DIYer doesn't it.
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It's a gray area because he did end up doing something different than what was originally planned.

But then again, isn't that how 50% of the jobs go? If I hire a professional plumber, then something like PVC pipe is definitely something I expect to be sitting in his truck, in different sizes, ready to go. Even if you're happy with the result, it was definitely not cheap and I wouldn't appreciate having to pay someone $130 to go to the store and get this
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Homewerks...9#.UiEfyayHenk

and this
http://www.homedepot.com/p/VPC-3-4-i...5#.UiEgo6yHenk

I'm just saying, a different plumber will have that on his truck and in this case save you over $100.
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If I hire a professional plumber, then something like PVC pipe is definitely something I expect to be sitting in his truck, in different sizes, ready to go.
I have to agree with that statement. All of the plumbers "I" know are PVC stores on wheels.
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I have to agree with that statement. All of the plumbers "I" know are are PVC stores on wheels.
I carry 10' or less of 3/4" and a coffee can of fittings- but my primer spilled

The reason I don't carry more is that it is not approved for water inside a house And I don't work on irrigation lines- only occasional condensate drains.

If I'd gone on that call I probably would have transitioned to PEX- I got lots of that on my truck
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PEX is fine too, and that plumber could have used that. Which begs the question - what kind of plumber has no supplies on his truck to make a 10 foot supply line? Maybe the kind that likes to get paid $70/hr for taking a drive in his truck listening to XM radio?
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PVC I hope we do mean CPVC.. Because PVC is not allowable on water distribution lines. That means in the house.

All I can say is when I did repair I drove a step van that was fully equipped and carried all normal use items. Waterline is a normal use item and a hose bib is a normal use item. I also had a signed contract with a specefic amount for the job prior to starting the work. The price I quoted was the price of the job. In the future I would suggest you do the same and once your quoted a price he is out of luck.

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PVC I hope we do mean CPVC.. Because PVC is not allowable on water distribution lines. That means in the house
Well that sucks for me...all of my cold water is PVC, the only CPVC I have is on the hot.
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Pvc is only approved as water service pipe for wells. The reason is you can read the side of your pipe the burst pressure is only for 78 degree water. Will good luck with that.
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Pvc is only approved as water service pipe for wells. The reason is you can read the side of your pipe the burst pressure is only for 78 degree water. Will good luck with that.
So be it in Ohio.
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Pvc is only approved as water service pipe for wells. The reason is you can read the side of your pipe the burst pressure is only for 78 degree water. Will good luck with that.
Codes vary by state. In SC PVC can be used for cold water pipes in a dwelling.

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