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petros151 07-02-2012 08:32 PM

PLEASE tell me no plumber would do this!
 
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I went to H.D I told them I need to split off my hot water feed to sink to feed D/W

They said do this (see pic)

this looks like a mess !!! (just to remind I have a 100 yr old house cannot put
plumbing in wall has to go up into base cab)

I can't believe you'd have to do this. Isn't there a way to sweat on or shark bite on some fitting after a single shut off that has two screw fittings for flex braided line to go to faucet and D/W ?

thanks!

jschaben 07-02-2012 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by petros151 (Post 956527)
I went to H.D I told them I need to split off my hot water feed to sink to feed D/W

They said do this (see pic)

this looks like a mess !!! (just to remind I have a 100 yr old house cannot put
plumbing in wall has to go up into base cab)

I can't believe you'd have to do this. Isn't there a way to sweat on or shark bite on some fitting after a single shut off that has two screw fittings for flex braided line to go to faucet and D/W ?

thanks!

You just want to use one shutoff for both?? What do you think it should look like?

TarheelTerp 07-02-2012 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by petros151 (Post 956527)
I can't believe you'd have to do this. Isn't there a way to sweat on

check the prices for one copper x copper valve + two flex adaptors
vs two valves with compression ends for flex lines

petros151 07-02-2012 09:04 PM

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This is a question two or one shut offs, around here small town local plumbers are all going to put in one shut off I"d say.

But in any case here is what I was wondering if they make this

petros151 07-02-2012 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TarheelTerp (Post 956556)
check the prices for one copper x copper valve + two flex adaptors
vs two valves with compression ends for flex lines

what about this type of thing?

oh'mike 07-02-2012 09:16 PM

Look on the shelf at the depot---there is a shutoff with two outlets--

I would prefer to have a separate shut off for each use--
Post a picture of the existing piping---

petros151 07-02-2012 09:25 PM

well the H.D. plumber person had no idea there is one I asked but neither of us could find it. I"ll ask tomorrow.

There is no existing piping yet. I am running a hot line tee'd off the water heater line that currently feeds the bathroom and an old kitchen sink (I moved the kitchen to another location on the 1st floor)

so I am free to do anything that's why I am checking out what to do before I do anything.

I am not against 2 shut offs but I'd not want so much plumbing under the sink in the base cab, there also will be a cold water line in there, so I hope to minimize the plumbing needed keep it ASAP (as simple as possible)

Can you tell my the worst case scenario for one shut off on the hot line?

thanks !

oh'mike 07-02-2012 09:32 PM

Oh--that's simple then--as the pipe enters the cabinet --add a T-about 2 or three inches above the bottom of the cabinet-then go up to about 18" above the floor--another T--then a 12" air chamber--

Use the first T for the Dishwasher--top T for the faucet---

wctekkk 07-02-2012 11:01 PM

http://www.brasscraft.com/images/Prod_DualOutlet.jpg

petros151 07-03-2012 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 956583)
Oh--that's simple then--as the pipe enters the cabinet --add a T-about 2 or three inches above the bottom of the cabinet-then go up to about 18" above the floor--another T--then a 12" air chamber--

Use the first T for the Dishwasher--top T for the faucet---

Ok thanks, but what is a 12" air chamber?

oh'mike 07-03-2012 06:46 AM

Every water pipe with a shut off needs a 12" pipe with a cap installed vertically--to prevent a knocking sound when the water is shut off suddenly--

Someone here will post a picture as I have never figured out that process--

I'll see if I can find a link to a picture of an air chamber.

oh'mike 07-03-2012 06:49 AM

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...JB85Qw2hgnUtmM

petros151 07-03-2012 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 956786)
Every water pipe with a shut off needs a 12" pipe with a cap installed vertically--to prevent a knocking sound when the water is shut off suddenly--

Someone here will post a picture as I have never figured out that process--

I'll see if I can find a link to a picture of an air chamber.

ok thanks!

-- I'll try to map out a way to do all this with the configuration I have (pipes coming up from below vertical) and post a drawing later this afternoon maybe see if it looks ok...

oh'mike 07-03-2012 07:49 AM

The air chamber can be any where in the line---often a T-and a street 90 is used to install the air chamber lower (along side the riser with the shut offs) if putting the air chamber on top of the riser interferes with the sink and faucet--

petros151 07-03-2012 03:15 PM

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The air chamber can be any where in the line---often a T-and a street 90 is used to install the air chamber lower (along side the riser with the shut offs) if putting the air chamber on top of the riser interferes with the sink and faucet--

here's a sketch of the hot water only with the valve they had a H.D. how's this look?


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