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Old 02-15-2009, 07:54 PM   #1
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I've read in the papers that the state of california has finally given its complete approval of pex, and will list it in its plumbing code as of 2009.

So is PEX now officially as good as copper pipe?

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Old 02-15-2009, 09:10 PM   #2
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Pex has been used in Europe for quite a while...only in the USA for a short time. In my opinion pex is a superior material in the residential arena as it is easy to install, more resistant to freezing, and more readily repaired. The only problem that I have seen with pex is in the commercial arena as it has far less tollerance to the higher temperatures that it is subject to in most commercial building.. the fact is that a lot of medical clinics are using pex because it is a much cleaner pipe than copper.

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Old 02-15-2009, 10:06 PM   #3
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Most of the rest of the free world takes California's health warnings, product safety bulletins, and regulations with a grain of salt. PEX has been in use in the states since 1983, and has been used in Europe since the late 60's or early 70's. The stuff is wonderful.
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they use it in those floor heating systems with total confidence under driveways..even on Ask this Old House they flipped a steam radiator to handle hot water,and that plumber guy just said...there is the PEX sticking out of the floor and hook it up and it is all compression fittings!
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There is a class action lawsuit against Zurn and the fittings they use with PEX.
http://www.inspection-perfection.com/main/pages/PEX.htm

Other types of PEX O.K.
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There is a class action lawsuit against Zurn and the fittings they use with PEX.
http://www.inspection-perfection.com/main/pages/PEX.htm

Other types of PEX O.K.
That is old news. Zurn's fittings are fine now and there's no reason to avoid them. A long time ago they did have some problems with their fittings but those have been rectified.
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Anyone have experience with the PEX quick connect fittings that do not require a tool? I'm doing a small bathroom remodel and want to use PEX, but can't justify the extra $100 for a crimping tool.
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I think the sharkbite fittings will work with PEX.
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I think the sharkbite fittings will work with PEX.
If the project is going to require many fittings at all you can most likely buy the crimpers for just a couple dollars more. Check out the fittings. They are pricey. Better than $1.50/ft for copper though.
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Cheap pex fittings, cheap crimp tool.. Now you are trying to give a great product like PEX a bad rep. Yes.. PEX is officially great. Always has been. We are just very slow to adjust in USA... especially in the coast. I used anil guns in 1968 in CO, but it was not common in CT until the 90s. Sharkbit works great with PEX. Borrow a tool, only pays to buy one if you are doing this work all the time. They may even rent them now. Tool should work with the fittings. They are not all created equal.
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I didn't realize that PEX wasn't permitted in California yet!! I'm glad to hear they're finally allowing it since I'm planning on re-doing my entire house with PEX in a few years...
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I didn't realize that PEX wasn't permitted in California yet!! I'm glad to hear they're finally allowing it since I'm planning on re-doing my entire house with PEX in a few years...
I'm glad to hear that California finally got on pace with the rest of the plumbing world. Nothing against Californians, but most of the rest of us are really glad we don't live there because of stuff like this.
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Still not allowed here in Central, IL. Cannot understand why, considering that Ice storm that hit Kansas recently
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Still not allowed here in Central, IL. Cannot understand why, considering that Ice storm that hit Kansas recently
Same reason that electricians can't run romex (type NM) wire in the Chicago area. Unions. Union electricians want to run conduit...Takes longer, costs more and requires more "skill". Union pipefitters and plumbers don't like anything that makes their job easier, cheaper or faster, which PEX certainly does.

Illinois is a rather corrupt place, code-wise. Actually it isn't rather corrupt, it is completely corrupt.
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Pex has been allowed in California since it came out. Certain cities and towns can still ban it, and do.

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