Outside Spigot Question... - Plumbing - DIY Home Improvement | DIYChatroom


Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Plumbing

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-02-2011, 02:58 PM   #16
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 13
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Outside spigot question...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Clutchcargo View Post
To the OP,
Where is your washing machine and does it have a drain pan?
The washing machine is on the complete opposite side of the house so I dont believe it would be snaked to the "right rear" when its in the "left front"...

Advertisement

carpenter981 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2011, 03:32 PM   #17
I have gas!
 
Clutchcargo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,783
Rewards Points: 1,018
Default

Outside spigot question...


The odd thing is that you say it leaks when the inside valve for the spigot is turned on. That implies that it something to do with the spigot. How much of the spigot plumbing can you see?
__________________
I tear things down and build them up.
Clutchcargo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2011, 03:40 PM   #18
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 13
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Outside spigot question...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Clutchcargo View Post
The odd thing is that you say it leaks when the inside valve for the spigot is turned on. That implies that it something to do with the spigot. How much of the spigot plumbing can you see?
yeah, thats the thing that I dont understand. I can see all of the spigot plumbing thats in the drop ceiling but when it 90* down in the wall I cant anything else. There is no other plumbing near it in ceiling or where it 90* down the wall...

It makes it seem like somewhere inside the wall this pipe somehow T's off of the spigot pipe. Or there is a pressure valve of some kind attached to it

There is another spigot in the front of the house but it does not have a pipe like this anywhere near it.
carpenter981 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2011, 12:39 AM   #19
Experienced
 
Jackofall1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Southern Michigan
Posts: 2,822
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Outside spigot question...


Quote:
Originally Posted by carpenter981 View Post
I can GUARANTEE you this has nothing to do with the T&P relief for the water heater. I can trace the T&P release from start to finish and it is nowhere near the pipe in question.

I tried to search for what you are saying is against code and I found nothing. Everything I found states that my piping is to code. This is why I asked you to show me other wise.
2006 International Plumbing Code, of which the state of MI has adopted, not sure where you are, but I would bet it isn't much different, you what to play with a potential bomb (a too restrictive T&P), like I said its your choice.

Mark
__________________
When its all said and done there is usually more said than done
Jackofall1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2011, 08:50 AM   #20
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Nashua, NH, USA
Posts: 6,976
Rewards Points: 2,048
Default

Outside spigot question...


Does that pipe stop dripping if you leave the outside spigot's inside shutoff open, leave the outside spigot itself closed, and turn on another faucet in the house (and let it run for a few minutes)?

Since you can see from inside up in the basement ceiling where the outside spigot pipe comes in and connects to the shutoff valve inside, can't you see where that white pipe enters and goes?
__________________
Forget super sized fries. The Washington Redskins could promote healthy eating with First Lady Obama by choosing a (red skinned) turnip for a mascot.

Last edited by AllanJ; 04-03-2011 at 08:53 AM.
AllanJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2011, 11:59 AM   #21
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 13
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Outside spigot question...


Quote:
Originally Posted by AllanJ View Post
Does that pipe stop dripping if you leave the outside spigot's inside shutoff open, leave the outside spigot itself closed, and turn on another faucet in the house (and let it run for a few minutes)?

Since you can see from inside up in the basement ceiling where the outside spigot pipe comes in and connects to the shutoff valve inside, can't you see where that white pipe enters and goes?
Yeah I noticed yesterday that it does seem to stop leaking when another faucet inside the house is turned on...

No, the white pipe is nowhere to be found. I had my head in the ceiling with a flash light and there isnt anything to coming in that direction but the copper pipe for the spigot.
carpenter981 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2011, 12:04 PM   #22
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 13
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Outside spigot question...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackofall1 View Post
2006 International Plumbing Code, of which the state of MI has adopted, not sure where you are, but I would bet it isn't much different, you what to play with a potential bomb (a too restrictive T&P), like I said its your choice.

Mark
SECTION 504


SAFETY DEVICES


*Delete Section 504.6.1 and substitute the following:


504.6.1 Discharge.
The relief valve shall discharge full size to a safe place of disposal such as a concrete floor, outside the building, an indirect waste receptor, or other approved location. The discharge shall terminate in a manner that does not cause injury to occupants in the immediate area or structural damage to the building. The discharge pipe shall not be trapped. When the relief valve discharge piping goes upward a thermal expansion control device shall be installed on the cold water distribution or service pipe in accordance with Section 607.3.2 (GA.


Ga Standard Plumbing Code (International Plumbing Code) Amendments 2002


Amendments). Provisions shall be made at the low point to drain the trapped portion of the discharge pipe.
(Effective January 1, 2002)

EDIT: Newer revision stating same thing...
http://www.dca.state.ga.us/developme...amendments.pdf



Dude, its up to code, leave it alone...This has nothing to do with the T&P. Unless youve got a suggestion on the pipe in question, please stop posting...

Last edited by carpenter981; 04-03-2011 at 12:22 PM.
carpenter981 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2011, 12:40 PM   #23
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Nashua, NH, USA
Posts: 6,976
Rewards Points: 2,048
Default

Outside spigot question...


There has got to be something coming through the inside surface of the exterior wall sheathing, from the point of view inside the basement, about a foot to the left of and about a foot below where the pipe to the spigot comes through.

Either that, or that white pipe is an external decoration and there is a (freezing induced) crack in the metal pipe just at the back of the spigot and, under pressure, water is leaking from there between the siding and the sheathing and finds it out through the white pipe.

Plumbing gizmos (such as auxiliary pressure relief valves) should not be buried in the wall or ceiling. If you should find one, you will have to arrange things so that it is accessible in case it should have to be replaced. (Slide out suspended ceiling panels are okay.)
__________________
Forget super sized fries. The Washington Redskins could promote healthy eating with First Lady Obama by choosing a (red skinned) turnip for a mascot.
AllanJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2011, 12:59 PM   #24
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: PENNSYLVANIA
Posts: 2,259
Rewards Points: 1,046
Default

Outside spigot question...


YOU have no choice but to find out where that freaking white pipe is coming from, ready, start looking now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COLDIRON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2011, 01:14 PM   #25
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 13
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Outside spigot question...


Quote:
Originally Posted by COLDIRON View Post
YOU have no choice but to find out where that freaking white pipe is coming from, ready, start looking now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just hate to hack my wall to pieces a little bit at a time to try and find where it is coming from. Im gonna wait a little while on that and try to get some more opinions from forums/plumbers...I hate patching walls so I wanna make sure thats my only option first...
carpenter981 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2011, 01:30 PM   #26
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 601
Rewards Points: 500
Default

Outside spigot question...


i don't see how anyone is going to be able to help you find out what it is unless you're willing to expose the pipe on the inside of the building. anything else is just a guess. i look at the pipe and think relief drain just like others have said, but how can we know unless we see pics from the inside? if you don't want to open the walls, just cap the pipe and wait to see what else starts leaking due to your laziness
the_man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2011, 01:36 PM   #27
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 13
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Outside spigot question...


Quote:
Originally Posted by the_man View Post
i don't see how anyone is going to be able to help you find out what it is unless you're willing to expose the pipe on the inside of the building. anything else is just a guess. i look at the pipe and think relief drain just like others have said, but how can we know unless we see pics from the inside? if you don't want to open the walls, just cap the pipe and wait to see what else starts leaking due to your laziness
True, I guess Im just hoping someone has encountered the same question and found an answer to it. Im definitely not gonna plug it. Ive got the shut off valve closed to it so it wont leak. Like I said if nothing is figured out, Ill hack into it and figure it out that way...
carpenter981 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2011, 01:47 PM   #28
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 601
Rewards Points: 500
Default

Outside spigot question...


just reread the entire thread... you said the valve is located above a drop ceiling in the basement. can you remove the sheetrock above that so you don't have to look at a hole until you patch it? I'm going to bet dollars to donuts that you have a pressure only relief valve tied in after that shut off valve that has failed. maybe due to house pressure (bad PRV) or the valve itself. Thats the only reason i can think of to have something piped like that. I've never seen a drain on a hose bibb like someone said above... seems kinda useless considering the bibb itself acts as a drain.
the_man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2011, 02:39 PM   #29
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: PENNSYLVANIA
Posts: 2,259
Rewards Points: 1,046
Default

Outside spigot question...


I don't want you to hack your place apart I just want to find out where that white pipe is going to. Theres got to be a way to find out without ripping out the house in obvious areas. You can do it I know you can.

Now we all have to know it's killing us and it's not even our house.
COLDIRON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2011, 10:33 PM   #30
Experienced
 
Jackofall1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Southern Michigan
Posts: 2,822
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Outside spigot question...


If you can, disconnect hopefully its threaded the outside hose bib.

If it is threaded to a female fitting on the inside, if I were to venture a guess, the hose bib piping is passing through a larger PVC pipe with a "T" on it connected to the drain piping.

Mark

Advertisement

__________________
When its all said and done there is usually more said than done
Jackofall1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
DRIcore question trailblazer1229 Flooring 0 02-24-2010 10:25 AM
3 Phase meter socket question a320200 Electrical 4 12-11-2009 01:45 AM
An unasked question is the only dumb question jackie treehorn Kitchen & Bath Remodeling 1 09-20-2009 09:24 PM
A question about water preassure. reasonforseason Plumbing 5 04-14-2009 05:36 PM
Basement Renovation Question KUIPORNG Remodeling 234 08-26-2008 09:19 AM




Top of Page | View New Posts