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carpenter981 04-01-2011 09:54 PM

Outside spigot question...
 
Ive got an outside water spigot on the back of my house. It has a discharge looking CPVC drain about 8 inches to the right of it. The spigot is right outside of the basement. Inside the basement there are drop ceilings to where I have access to the shut off valve for that spigot.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h4...8/9c3619f4.jpg

When the shut off valve is open and the spigot is off, the discharge pipe leaks a pretty good bit. When I turn the spigot on, the leak from the discharge pipe stops. When I turn the shut off valve off, the discharge leak stops.

In the drop ceiling where the shut off valve is, there is no CPVC anywhere going to that discharge pipe. I have no idea where it is coming from. It is definitely not connected to the hot water heater. I can not find a connection for it to be from the AC or furnace.

My question is, what is this pipe, why is it leaking, and what can I do to fix it??????

havalife 04-01-2011 11:04 PM

You have 2 pipes and you can find out where they go. Re-read what you are asking to be answereq.

carpenter981 04-01-2011 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by havalife (Post 621620)
You have 2 pipes and you can find out where they go. Re-read what you are asking to be answereq.

What? Im trying to find out what that PVC pipe to the right of the spigot is...I can not find where it is coming from...

VIPlumber 04-01-2011 11:32 PM

Can I ask why you are so certain that it's not coming from the T&P valve on your hot water heater? That's the only thing that comes to mind seeing piping like that.

carpenter981 04-01-2011 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by VIPlumber (Post 621627)
Can I ask why you are so certain that it's not coming from the T&P valve on your hot water heater? That's the only thing that comes to mind seeing piping like that.

Because I traced the CPVC line coming off the T&P through the drop ceilings, going towards the outside of the house. It then 90* down and out another similar pipe 30ft away from the pipe in question

VIPlumber 04-01-2011 11:49 PM

Fair enough then. I'll admit I'm curious as to what it could be.

havalife 04-02-2011 12:02 AM

Sorry but I will have to say take the drywall off the wall inside so you can see what is in the wall, the pic does not help.

Jackofall1 04-02-2011 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by carpenter981 (Post 621630)
Because I traced the CPVC line coming off the T&P through the drop ceilings, going towards the outside of the house. It then 90* down and out another similar pipe 30ft away from the pipe in question

There are strict rules regarding the T&P relief valve from the HW tank, and you are way beyond what is allowed, the potential of this causing a real problem in the event of a true need to relieve is extreemly dangerous, you need to change this for your own safety.

Mark

COLDIRON 04-02-2011 05:57 AM

Relax sit down have something to drink think, think, think about it.

Your there not us it's your house I am sure you can find it just don't give up and keep looking.

It's
a. Water Heater T/P discharge

b. A/C condensate drain

c. Drain back valve for winterizing the pipes.

d. Sump discharge.

Anybody????

Thurman 04-02-2011 11:33 AM

Wild guess here: Do you live in a cold climate where freezing weather is common? You're outside hose bibb may be a "frost-proof" type with the actual valve seat located inside the walled area. There may be a drain attached to the housing of the frost-proof faucet housing which allows all water to drain to prevent the housing from freezing up in winter and causing cracking. I've seen these in Alaska. I also notice you have a "Back-flow Preventer" on the faucet which is probably required by local code in your area.

carpenter981 04-02-2011 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Thurman (Post 621818)
Wild guess here: Do you live in a cold climate where freezing weather is common? You're outside hose bibb may be a "frost-proof" type with the actual valve seat located inside the walled area. There may be a drain attached to the housing of the frost-proof faucet housing which allows all water to drain to prevent the housing from freezing up in winter and causing cracking. I've seen these in Alaska. I also notice you have a "Back-flow Preventer" on the faucet which is probably required by local code in your area.

Im actually in GA also, Gwinnett County.


I still havent figured it out, Ive turned the pressure reducing valve into the house down a little hoping it would stop it but it hasnt. I dont have a gauge to check it but it did lower the pressure in the house a little...

carpenter981 04-02-2011 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackofall1 (Post 621659)
There are strict rules regarding the T&P relief valve from the HW tank, and you are way beyond what is allowed, the potential of this causing a real problem in the event of a true need to relieve is extreemly dangerous, you need to change this for your own safety.

Mark

Show me a link to the code where it states that mine is against code...

Jackofall1 04-02-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by carpenter981 (Post 621846)
Show me a link to the code where it states that mine is against code...

You know instead of challenging this, why wouldn't you look it up,

First thing I see is, if in fact this is T&P relief piping, the piping appears to have been reduced to 1/2" Dia **note I say appears***,

2nd - I can't see the other end I can't really say but you might want to look at, the fact that if again this is a T&P drain there has to be an air gap in the room that this piping originates from,

3rd - the discharge in a manner that does not cause personal injury or structural damage......I see a possible scald issue by its location.

4th - I would say that is incorrect piping material for T&P relief piping.

Your place, your decision, hope it doesn't bite you in the rear end if something was to happen

Over and out

Mark

Clutchcargo 04-02-2011 01:24 PM

To the OP,
Where is your washing machine and does it have a drain pan?

carpenter981 04-02-2011 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackofall1 (Post 621858)
You know instead of challenging this, why wouldn't you look it up,

First thing I see is, if in fact this is T&P relief piping, the piping appears to have been reduced to 1/2" Dia **note I say appears***,

2nd - I can't see the other end I can't really say but you might want to look at, the fact that if again this is a T&P drain there has to be an air gap in the room that this piping originates from,

3rd - the discharge in a manner that does not cause personal injury or structural damage......I see a possible scald issue by its location.

4th - I would say that is incorrect piping material for T&P relief piping.

Your place, your decision, hope it doesn't bite you in the rear end if something was to happen

Over and out

Mark


I can GUARANTEE you this has nothing to do with the T&P relief for the water heater. I can trace the T&P release from start to finish and it is nowhere near the pipe in question.

I tried to search for what you are saying is against code and I found nothing. Everything I found states that my piping is to code. This is why I asked you to show me other wise.


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