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Old 06-30-2008, 05:23 PM   #1
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Has anyone come across this before? The house was built in 1959, a ranch w/ a full basement. There is a walk out basement door to stairs w/ block walls, the lot is flat. Coming through the walkout door there is a 4'x4' landing that has a sump pit dug into it. There is a single drain pipe running to the pit, from the drain in the basement floor near the washing machine. There are also drain pipes on either side coming through the block walls of the exterior stairs, fed from french drains along the foundation presumably.

I'm mainly curious if someone has come across this before or would be willing to guess why this sump pit was dug outside, as I said it is the only sump in the house. Was this a retroactive fix?

What kind of issues should I be worried about? Right now I'm thinking debris getting into the pit/pump/piping. How concerned should I be about a hard freeze? Im in Ohio. If the sump pit is frozen I wouldnt expect that any water would need pumped, I dont know if this will damage a pump though. The plumbing is set up with a check valve at the highest point so I dont think the pipes are in danger of freezing & breaking.

I pulled the original pump out and replaced it with a sewage pump in an effort to handle the leaves, acorns, etc that might find their way into the pit. I also ran 2" PVC again to better handle any debris going through the line.

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Old 07-01-2008, 12:52 AM   #2
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Do you live in a city subdivision?

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Old 07-02-2008, 02:25 PM   #3
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I wouldn't call it that, its an older neighborhood ~5 miles out of downtown Columbus Ohio.
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Old 07-02-2008, 03:13 PM   #4
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I imagine it was located there because the stairwell needed a drain and they didn't want to bring the outside water into the house. Since it's at the bottom of the stairwell, probably 30" underground and up against a heated basement it probably never freezes. If you don't see concrete patchwork in the basement floor it's probably been there from the beginning. The sump lid and stairwell drain strainer should keep out leaves and other debris.
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Old 07-02-2008, 05:02 PM   #5
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Did the stairwell ever sport a cover of any kind?? how hard to enclose this area?? Like said not hard to keep an insulated enclosed area like this above 35 degrees!! I would see IF I could put a drain in that line when it is real cold,leave it open then,closed rest of the year!!

Other thought,,is there any fall or slope to your lot?? How far,how hard of job to get this to drain naturally ALL the way without a pump??
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reason I ask is because we just installed a sump pump in an outdoor pit, but everything here is on the side of a hill, and the storm drainage in the street is higher than the storm drainage for the house.
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SInce the house is almost 50 years old and you have installed a new pump, as long as there is no evidence that it has flooded you should be fine with a good grate over the sump. Just keep an eye on it during the winter.

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