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4just1don 10-13-2011 07:40 PM

old stool wont fit on new plastic floor flange????what now?
 
Been around about every piece of plumbing for over 50 years,,never had THIS happen.

New ceramic tiled bath floor,,,put new plastic 4" from stack to stool, old cast and flange were beyond gone under stool and stool was not bolted down for awhile.

Anyway we set stool on flange without wax ring for emergency nightime use,,probably half dozen times during course of this total bath rebuild. Stool always rocked but we didnt have flange glued to pipe yet.

Today we get to the point of ready for permanent install,,,set stool on flange temp to mark front holes to drill thru tile. Stool is old Mansfield four bolt'er yet.

Stool rocks 1/4 inch on flange w/o wax ring or rubber flange in wax. With wax ring would rock almost around half inch. Measure distance from where it sets in tile floor to porcelain where flange rests and its only 3/8 ". New floor flange is about 1/2" all by itself.

HOW do you put an older stool down on a newer plastic flange???? Why does these things happen to ME?????

Thanks in advance for any help...I remain just -don-

Alan 10-13-2011 09:58 PM

Shims, and a :censored: - load of caulking.

This is why I don't put flanges ON TOP of finished floor like code says we're supposed to.

Lucky we have an understanding inspector.

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Anyway we set stool on flange without wax ring for emergency nightime use,,probably half dozen times during course of this total bath rebuild. Stool always rocked but we didnt have flange glued to pipe yet.
W - T - F ?

TheEplumber 10-13-2011 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 4just1don (Post 748210)
HOW do you put an older stool down on a newer plastic flange???? Why does these things happen to ME?????

Thanks in advance for any help...I remain just -don-

I refuse to use plastic flanges. I use the ones with metal rings. Their profile is a little less and the ring will rotate until you anchor it.
Try an old school bowl wax without the plastic flange in it.

oh'mike 10-14-2011 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan (Post 748302)
Shims, and a :censored: - load of caulking.

This is why I don't put flanges ON TOP of finished floor like code says we're supposed to.

Lucky we have an understanding inspector.

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W - T - F ?

I've run into that,too.

I like the top of flange flush to the finished floor---not on top.

hammerlane 10-15-2011 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TheEplumber (Post 748359)
I refuse to use plastic flanges. I use the ones with metal rings. Their profile is a little less and the ring will rotate until you anchor it.


I agree with Eplumber and have the photos to prove it. I didnt know which flange I was going to use so I "rented" a couple from the local home improvement store. Also as you can see in the photo the hub are different lengths also even though you could just cut some off the hub if needed.

oh'mike 10-15-2011 07:58 AM

3" flanges that install inside the pipe are a problem as the opening is to small and dome toilet horns will hit the hole and not seat properly. Avoid using the inside glued 3" flanges.

Alan 10-15-2011 09:46 AM

Don't you have problems with those metal ones rusting out?


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