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digitalplumber 01-27-2013 06:34 PM

OK I have to ask Copper solder issue
 
I soldered a 3/4 piece of copper pipe to a dimpled coupler. Installed it and noticed that its not prefectly straight in the coupler, but it does not leak.

So my question is: Is this going to fail? and should it be addressed now?

Dont ask me how this happened, I dont know.

If I have to correct it, is there a shortcut to fix this?

Thanks

joecaption 01-27-2013 06:38 PM

Got a picture?
Near impossible to get one on crooked unless it's not all the way on.
There a line to line fit.

digitalplumber 01-27-2013 06:40 PM

Will take one tomorrow.

oh'mike 01-27-2013 06:44 PM

Crooked is not seen often---like Joe said---

Usually a joint can be heated----realigned--brushed with flux and soldered without disassembly or additional cleaning------usually----well,most times---:laughing:

digitalplumber 01-27-2013 06:49 PM

Thanks, these couplings were the ones I got off of ebay. I did not remember that he sent me some normal ones and some with just dimples.

Was tired so I finished up and came home. Maybe we just did not straighten the 10 foot run out? Will double check it tomorrow and make a decision.

Regarding all of my solder joints, I see no leaks, but I guess time can bring those on?

TheEplumber 01-27-2013 06:50 PM

If the pipe is not supported near the joint, it will sag. The fitting can have excessive tolerances. As stated, if the joint was prepped and soldered correctly you should be OK-except that is crooked.
One of the most obvious places this occurs is the copper stub outs for tubs- no one likes a saggy spout :whistling2:

digitalplumber 01-27-2013 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheEplumber (Post 1103549)
If the pipe is not supported near the joint, it will sag. The fitting can have excessive tolerances. As stated, if the joint was prepped and soldered correctly you should be OK-except that is crooked.
One of the most obvious places this occurs is the copper stub outs for tubs- no one likes a saggy spout :whistling2:


Saggy Spout, isnt that what Viagra is for? Oh wait, wrong forum!:eek:

Thanks!

joecaption 01-27-2013 06:54 PM

A "normal" one would have "dimples" a repair coupling would not.

digitalplumber 01-27-2013 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1103553)
A "normal" one would have "dimples" a repair coupling would not.

OK never used one before so I assumned it would like the ends on a 90.

Thanks

paintdrying 01-27-2013 07:13 PM

I would just go ahead and replace it. If it is not seated properly then not all the surface area of the joint is properly joined. I have not see anything like that before. I would guess the tolerances are off.

oh'mike 01-27-2013 07:14 PM

Usually---if they don't leak--then they are good for ever----

TheEplumber 01-27-2013 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 1103574)
Usually---if they don't leak--then they are good for ever----

True, Not to put the OP down, but it's considered a sign of sloppy craftsmanship on the part of the plumber. It happens a lot when you don't pay attention to the pipe alignment. Just stand back and look at your work before you solder :thumbsup: You can reheat heat it and apply a little side pressure till it cools

digitalplumber 01-27-2013 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheEplumber (Post 1103583)
True, Not to put the OP down, but it's considered a sign of sloppy craftsmanship on the part of the plumber. It happens a lot when you don't pay attention to the pipe alignment. Just stand back and look at your work before you solder :thumbsup: You can reheat heat it and apply a little side pressure till it cools

No offense taken, if I were a pro then I would be worried. Need to look at up close and not down the line so to speak. It may just be a slight mis alignment in the pipe, not a crooked conect with the coupler.

Thanks for all of the help!

jagans 01-27-2013 08:17 PM

I would fix it. There is very little chance of misalignment in this case, and your joint is holding on by a thread. You know it, and so do we. Plus it will drive you nuts, knowing its like that.

oh'mike 01-27-2013 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jagans (Post 1103641)
. You know it, and so do we. Plus it will drive you nuts, knowing its like that.

I worked with a guy that was a perfectionist---we piped in 5 mixing tanks with pipes and valves--pumps--all 4" victalic--a run of over 40 feet---

We missed our mark by 3/8"---it drove him nut to think his math was off---6 months later we tore off the insulation so he could find the mistake---:laughing:


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