Noisy Bathtub Drain

rick112

Hello, my name is Rick and this is my first major DIY project and my first post to this forum.



I just installed a new bathtub as part of a full bathroom renovation. While draining the tub after a leak test I was surprised by the amount of noise coming out of the overflow opening. I did some research on this and other plumbing sites, and it seems the most likely cause is improper venting. The thing is, I installed a dedicated vent for this bathtub following all the guidelines specified in my DIY pluming books and the 2009 International Plumbing Code, which my state and county uses for it's local plumbing codes. All waste and vent tubing is 1 1/2" PVC and the distance from the trap to the vent is about about 14". While the tub was draining I put a piece of plastic over the overflow opening to see if it was perhaps sucking air and found no air was being pulled into the overflow. I would think that if the drain were starved for air it would try and suck it down the overflow. So I'm really confused about why it's making all that racket when it drains. Any thoughts?

-rick

Jim F

I'm surprised you haven't got a reply on this yet. I can't see any reason that would be caused by your ventilation. It looks properly vented to me. How much noise is too much and what is your basis for comparison. I think I hear a fair amound of noise coming out of my tub overflow granted it is old plumbing and known to be partially obstructed. The only other thing I can think of is the length of your tail piece to your trap but wouldn't swear to it. The only way to test that theory is to shorten your tail piece but I doubt you want to do that for an unsure solution. The only other thing that comes to mind is to check the overflow gasket.

rick112

"How much noise is too much and what is your basis for comparison"

Drain sound.zip

Here's an MP3 I recorded of the noise it makes while draining ( I had to zip for the upload to work). It's a violent enough sound that I can feel it in the tub and surrounding walls. It's loud enough to hear it through the walls and on the first floor. For comparison I only have my memory of what other tubs I've used sounded like when draining. The old tub I replaced drained so slow it can't be used for comparison. Also, my sink and lav drains sound "normal" to me. Just that quiet rush of water through the pipes.

The length of the tail piece is 14".

Another thing. I was wrong about the overflow not sucking air. I failed to cover the two holes that are tapped through it for the screws that hold the overflow cover plate. I tried again with the plastic film over the front and my thumbs over the 2 holes in back. With the overflow completely blocked, the gurgling sound goes away and all I hear that familiar sound of water rushing through a pipe. When I uncover the screw holes I can hear air being sucked into them and the quiet rushing sound is replaced by that noisy gurgling again. The tub definitely drains slower but it's about what I would expect. It's able to make a small tornado at about 2". With the overflow sucking air and making noise, the tornado started at about 4" then turned into a hurricane.

I thought the vent was suppose to supply the air to the drain. Is it normal for the overflow to suck air?

tpolk

thats a long tail piece may be the problem do to speed of water drop and drain

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