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Old 09-23-2009, 11:06 PM   #16
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Looks kind of interesting! I'll be curious to see the price point though. I also wonder if it recovers in a comparable amount of time to a traditional gas water heater?

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Looks kind of interesting! I'll be curious to see the price point though. I also wonder if it recovers in a comparable amount of time to a traditional gas water heater?
Seems like the recovery time is tied to the mode it's in. In normal mode I believe it uses the electric elements for recovery and the heat pump to maintain temperature.
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Here are the two high power modes:

  • High Demand Mode
    Family or friends visiting for the weekend? Need faster recovery time on hot water? This mode is for households with higher than average water usage.
  • Standard Electric Mode
    This mode is the least energy-efficient, and uses 4500-watt heating elements to heat the water quickly.
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The 2.0 EF quailifies the Rheem HP-50 for the stimulas tax incentive.
Designed with more in common with your refrigerator, the amout of cool is comparable to the amount of heat generated by your frig. Just as your frig won't heat your home in the winter, the HP-50 is not going to AC a room. Payback is <4 years considering that the average electric water heater cost approx. $500/yr to operate and the HP-50 is rated at $234/yr. Add to that you can qualify for 30% tax incentive covering the water heater and installation. Installation is no different than a typical electric water heater with the exception of the condensate drain. Just as yoru AC and frig produce condensate, so will a HPWH. This is only the moisture from the atmosphere. This is a product worth considering
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So, according to your payback numbers, these should be around $1300-1400?
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So, according to your payback numbers, these should be around $1300-1400?
Prices could drop further when more competitors get into this market.
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I suppose it depends a lot on where you live. If I am reading the literature right, it is simply transferring heat from ambient air to your water. So, in the summer, great. But in the winter, any energy that is transfered to your water, will have to be made up for by your furnace.
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I suppose it depends a lot on where you live. If I am reading the literature right, it is simply transferring heat from ambient air to your water. So, in the summer, great. But in the winter, any energy that is transfered to your water, will have to be made up for by your furnace.
I believe the unit has a backup heating element. Primary cost saving heating source is via the heat pump.
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A heat pump is not a heating source. It simply moves heat from one place to another.
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A heat pump is not a heating source. It simply moves heat from one place to another.
Yes, and this heat pump hot water heater is moving heat from the air to the water, and/or from the heating element to the water, as I said.


"This innovative hybrid water heater combines energy-saving heat pump technology with traditional electric heating systems used in most standard water heaters on the market today,"
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HPWH are designed for indoor use. The HP-50 spec is for HP operation to 40F ambient where installed. There is still heat in the atmosphere at 40F for the unit to extract for transfer to the water. If installed in a basement where your furnace is located, it will draw from the waste heat from the furnace.
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I think i will wait to see the pricing for these things as i believe my bottom element is burned out in my hot water heater, but for some reason i still get a fair amount of hot water?

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