Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Plumbing

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 04-14-2013, 09:40 PM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 33
Rewards Points: 25
Default

Newb Question


I am wanting to replumb my entire house. It was built in the 60s and to be honest everything needs to be redone. I was wanting to know what the optimum pipe sizes are for hot water lines as well as cold lines. I have 2 sinks, washing machine, and 2 water hose outlets. I am planning on using the sharkbite PEX tubing to redo everything as it is the simplest option for a beginner. all lines will be secured with c brackets and covered with the foam barrier stuff to help in cold weather.

new2thecrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2013, 10:10 PM   #2
MarginallyQualified
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Winston-Salem NC
Posts: 3,681
Rewards Points: 2,036
Default

Newb Question


Quote:
Originally Posted by new2thecrew View Post
I am wanting to replumb my entire house. It was built in the 60s...
What piping do you have now?
Are you experiencing any specific problem with what you have now?

TarheelTerp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2013, 11:43 PM   #3
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 33
Rewards Points: 25
Default

Newb Question


I havent gotten under the house yet to see. I will have to cut an access hole in the floor to be able to get under. I was just trying to get an idea beforehand so I could start pricing. It is a smaller house so I figure I wont need much piping. Maybe around 300ft or so. There is no specific problems going on really. I need to add a hot line for my washing machine as there isnt one ran back and want to improve the overall flow of water around the house. Looking at how the water tank is installed kinda worries me as there are multiple 90 degree bends everywhere in the closet. I am OCD about installs and that one just looks like crap. I am planning on remodeling and adding onto the house within a few years and just want to be able to flow and go if you know what I am saying.
new2thecrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2013, 09:19 AM   #4
MarginallyQualified
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Winston-Salem NC
Posts: 3,681
Rewards Points: 2,036
Default

Newb Question


Quote:
Originally Posted by new2thecrew View Post
want to improve the overall flow of water around the house.
By age, your 1960's house probably has copper pipe.
Copper pipe will rarely *need* to be replaced.

It's VERY rare for a laundry hook up (washer) to not include hot water.
If/when you replace the water heater the OCD distress experienced by untidy pipe fitting can be relieved with a couple hours of extra work... then
If/when you do your remodel/add-on you can deal with what is needed for that... then
Until then though, I doubt you'll need more than a few "Saturday repairs"

To that end...
Are you on city water or a well?
What is deficient about the "flow of water" now?
Have you measured GPM at several outlets?
Do you have any pressure gauges or pressure reducing valve now?

Last edited by TarheelTerp; 04-15-2013 at 09:32 AM.
TarheelTerp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2013, 11:07 AM   #5
Roofmaster
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 3,636
Rewards Points: 2,030
Default

Newb Question


see next, sorry, I still dont know how to delete a post
__________________
" A lot of men build things, and a lot of things fall down "


Last edited by jagans; 04-15-2013 at 11:10 AM.
jagans is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2013, 11:09 AM   #6
Roofmaster
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 3,636
Rewards Points: 2,030
Default

Newb Question


You need to check your local code. Some places require that you use a certain type of pipe. I have used shark bites where I am forced to adapt one type of pipe to another, but I would be very uncomfortable using them as a general rule.

I could be completely wrong here, but fittings that depend on an O ring, or a crimp ring still give me the willies. I'm sure its just that I have not used these systems enough, but I always unplug my HWH and turn off my Main Ball Valve when we go away.

If I were you, I would go with a home run system with manifold if you go PEX. I dont own a PEX crimp tool, but I'm sure one of the pros like Alan or ColdIron can recommend one that is decent. they know thier stuff.
__________________
" A lot of men build things, and a lot of things fall down "

jagans is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2013, 12:30 PM   #7
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 33
Rewards Points: 25
Default

Newb Question


Well I have looked at some other areas that have concerned me. The water hose on the front of the house has the same tubing as you would see on a dishwasher. The webbed rubberish kind. Dont know all the terms. But then in the laundry room, there is a cold line and a gas line for what i am guessing to be a gas dryer. Then in the bathroom, there were no shut off valves under the sink. There just seems to be a lot of halfassedness going on in this house. Not even with just the plumbing but as well as electrical, drywall, and tile job. I am planning on pretty much gutting the house one room at a time and redoing. Probably going to remove subfloor and replace as well in all rooms just so I know everything is done correctly or at least more solidly.
new2thecrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2013, 01:41 PM   #8
MarginallyQualified
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Winston-Salem NC
Posts: 3,681
Rewards Points: 2,036
Default

Newb Question


Quote:
Originally Posted by new2thecrew View Post
There just seems to be a lot of halfassedness going on in this house.
You should see what most DIYers end up with.

Quote:
I am planning on pretty much gutting the house one room at a time and redoing.
Dutch Uncle: Nothing that you're complaining about sounds like more than a few Saturday's spent doing a few repairs from here. If the house was truly as awful as you seem to believe it to be you're better off to sell it as is.

But if you have the time and money to pour into a major rebuild project... have fun.

Last edited by TarheelTerp; 04-15-2013 at 01:46 PM.
TarheelTerp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2013, 02:01 PM   #9
moderator
 
TheEplumber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: North Idaho
Posts: 7,024
Rewards Points: 2,236
Default

Newb Question


PEX is a good choice for DIY. Invest in a set of good crimpers- you can always sell them on ebay if you don't want to keep them.
Size your lines according to how many fixtures you'll end up with when you complete your remodel.
3/4" main line with 1/2" branches to 1 or 2 fixtures is a good rule of thumb. However, occasionally special fixtures are installed that demand extra volume or water pressure is low so size carefully.
__________________
When posting in forums, letting us know your location will help others give better feedback/advice/solutions to your questions
TheEplumber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2013, 05:56 PM   #10
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,309
Rewards Points: 1,162
Default

Newb Question


Quick rule of thump is 2 fixtures on 1/2 inch max. More then that one uses 3/4 pipe.
Ghostmaker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2013, 06:11 PM   #11
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: North Carolina, USA
Posts: 3,035
Rewards Points: 2,270
Default

Newb Question


Quote:
Originally Posted by jagans View Post
I have used shark bites where I am forced to adapt one type of pipe to another, but I would be very uncomfortable using them as a general rule.
OP said "Sharkbite PEX tubing" so it's unclear what he thinks that is.

Sharkbite makes fittings, not the pipe. Crimping would be the way to go, unless you have a good reason to use a Sharkbite fitting at some particular place. They're too expensive to use everywhere. Apollo makes an affordable PEX crimper, that comes with 4 interchangeable crimp sizes.
jeffnc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2013, 10:17 PM   #12
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Northeast Nebraska
Posts: 19
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Newb Question


Sharkbite does make tubing in the white, blue and red. They printed the logo in 1" increments on the pipe which made it easier to determine how far to push the connections on. I agree on crimping, the Sharkbite fittings would cost an arm and a leg for a bigger project...
timmay5309 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2013, 01:06 AM   #13
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: North Carolina, USA
Posts: 3,035
Rewards Points: 2,270
Default

Newb Question


Quote:
Originally Posted by timmay5309 View Post
Sharkbite does make tubing in the white, blue and red.
Actually I thought they did, but I couldn't find it in a quick search, so I thought I might have been mistaken. But I'm pretty sure I've bought it before.

Still not sure what the OP means.

jeffnc is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Another Aluminum Siding prep question aribert Painting 6 03-14-2013 01:48 PM
Plumbing for new shower kit question noviceshock Plumbing 6 03-02-2013 08:11 PM
3 Phase meter socket question a320200 Electrical 4 12-11-2009 12:45 AM
patching painted drywall newb question afabco Drywall & Plaster 2 11-12-2008 06:58 PM
Basement Renovation Question KUIPORNG Remodeling 234 08-26-2008 08:19 AM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.