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RyanD 05-09-2009 08:43 AM

New house, no idea how to shut the water off.
 
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Just moved in yeterday and I need to shut the water off to make a repair :whistling2: but I can't figure out how to. The water coming in from the water main has a valve but it's only on "their" side and it doesn't turn more than 5 degress back and forth. Is this locked, do I need to do something special to turn it?

The only thing on my side of the water line is what appears to be a pressure regulator. Is this right? I tried to follow the pipe but i have no idea where and how they get to the area I need to turn off so I'm thinking I;m going to have to shut off the main valve but I can't figure out how. Any ideas?

majakdragon 05-09-2009 09:22 AM

Sounds (and looks) like a ball valve. These valves only turn 90 degrees. When the handle is in line with the pipe, it is open, accross the pipe, it's closed. The first picture is a pressure regulator.

RyanD 05-09-2009 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by majakdragon (Post 271497)
Sounds (and looks) like a ball valve. These valves only turn 90 degrees. When the handle is in line with the pipe, it is open, accross the pipe, it's closed. The first picture is a pressure regulator.

Yeah, the valve right now is about at 185 inline and it only moves to about 190 and stops, I need to get it to 240 to stop the water but it wont let me and I dont' want to put too much force since that's main water valve and if that breaks I'm SOL.

RyanD 05-09-2009 10:25 AM

Well, I was able to trace the water line and there are no other valves so I have to shut the main water line to fix this. Any thoughts how how I can turn it?

majakdragon 05-09-2009 12:27 PM

By "main valve" I am assuming you mean the curb stop out in the yard. You can buy or make the tool for this but be aware that the City owns the valve. If it breaks, you will be responsible for paying to have it repaired/replaced. They do not normally break easily, but it can happen. Just go easy on it. These are also usually a 1/4 turn valve.

RyanD 05-09-2009 04:30 PM

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By main valve I mean the one next to the water meter, as far as I can tell this is the only place to shut the water off to the entire house so there must be an easy way to do it.

RyanD 05-09-2009 04:36 PM

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Here are some more detailed pictures. Like I said, it's already turned a little to the left and it will move easily about another 5-10 degress to the left but that's it. Same with the other direction, it wont more any further.

kenmac 05-09-2009 06:21 PM

Looks like an old 1. Also looks like you can lift on the handle.. Have you tried to lift it

Nikroo 05-09-2009 06:32 PM

I am sorry. But CAN you shut off the water at the curb?
I take it the pics are of the secondary valve which may be in the garage?
I have the same valve and it turns 90 deg as mentioned before. But most of thetime I just shut off at the curb which looks totally different than the one pictured.

You may have to replace this valve if it is stuck it, if this is indeed a secondary valve after the main at the curb.

Nikroo 05-09-2009 06:34 PM

By the way, if this is the one by the curb and the water meter (seems like it from your pictures now that I look at them more carefully) then the water company should change it for free. They changed ours.

RyanD 05-09-2009 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikroo (Post 271676)
I am sorry. But CAN you shut off the water at the curb?
I take it the pics are of the secondary valve which may be in the garage?
I have the same valve and it turns 90 deg as mentioned before. But most of thetime I just shut off at the curb which looks totally different than the one pictured.

You may have to replace this valve if it is stuck it, if this is indeed a secondary valve after the main at the curb.

What do you mean by the curb? :huh: The line going into this is coming from the ground so I'm assuming this is the one that goes out to the road.

It does not lift.

I tried with a pretty decent amount of force and it didn't move so I'm stuck on what to do. The thing I need to fix is the ice maker water line is leaker so I want to patch it but I don't want to just pull it off without shutting of the water first. Can I, is that hole small enough that it wont make a huge mess when I disconnect it?(side topic). I guess I will call the water department and see if they can replace the valve.

majakdragon 05-09-2009 09:00 PM

When the Water Department installs a tap, they have a brass valve they install until the water line is run. This valve usually has a cast iron or (now) plastic sleeve that alloows the department to shut it off from above ground if you fail the pay the bill. Since the valve pictured is not a locking (able to be locked shut) I bet there is another valve out near the street. Look for the cap of the sleeve or possibly a blue paint mark from when they turned the water on.

plumber Jim 05-10-2009 10:45 AM

Just call your water company and they will turnit off for you then turn it back on when you are done.

myworkshop 05-10-2009 11:25 AM

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I would call the city, there has to be a main shut off before it goes into the house. The city is responsible for maintaining and replacing that valve. Call them they have a device that can find the valve outside underground. Then you can replace the old existing one once it is shut off! :laughing:

majakdragon 05-10-2009 01:42 PM

I agree with calling the water Department. Have all your material ready and change out that old valve. Most water companies will allow you to request a shut-off and turn-on time.


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