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Old 05-19-2009, 09:26 PM   #1
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Hi, I am building a new home. My existing 4" iron septic lead is 3' from house and 10" fall from the hole in basement wall. I thaught it should be much lower(less fall). Should I redrill the hole, or just put a cleanout outside and drop the 10" outside? Also, how do you connect plastic to iron? tar? The iron has a female end.
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:44 PM   #2
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is it a big deal to redrill? so long as the pipe leading to/from the drop are properly sloped, you wont have the ugh.. liquids seperating from the solids.

just use a rubber boot to connect the two pipes.
Home Depot has them, just make sure it's rated for what you're doin.


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Old 05-19-2009, 09:46 PM   #3
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I think a clean out exterior building will be fine. A 10" drop is no big deal as long as the horz pipes are sloped correctly.

Cast female needs to be cut off and you can use a 4" fernco to join the cast to the PVC. Jst make sure the dirt is packed around the pipe really good before complete cove up is done to help prevent shifting during setteling

There is also a rubber sleeve insert that you can put into the hub and then insert the 4" into the pipe. Trick is to cut a piece of pipe about 2' long and chamfer or taper the end to go into the sleeve. Use a 2x4 and place it over the other end and drive the pipe into the sleeve with a hammer. Use valve grease as lube. Then recut the pipe and use a PVC coupling to join the pipe

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Old 05-19-2009, 10:18 PM   #4
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Thank you. The basement contractor said if it was a problem, that they could move the hole lower, but assured me they install many this high and have never had a complaint from it. I don't mind an ext cleanout, and hate to bother them if its ok. Should I put another cleanout inside?
I will look for an insert, Seems like a rubber coupler would be a stretch over the rusty swelled iron.
Thank you again. Very helpfull.
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Check your local Plumbing code. In Florida, septic tanks were required to be connected using 2 45 degree elbows. This was to prevent back-ups. An outside clean-out was also required, within 3' of the house.
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I would install a double cleanout so you can snake into the house or to the septic tank. I would use a fernco to hook up to existing iron pipe rather than a no hub band and I usually put 2 bags of sakrete or redi mix around each fernco to insure that it will not settle. Just dump it straight out of the bag and make sure it goes all the way around the pipe. The ground moisture will harden the cement. It also prevents roots from going into the fernco.
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Can I get any approvals or remarks on this before I glue, cement, and bury this baby?
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Old 05-21-2009, 08:01 PM   #8
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Looks like fine work but that wouldn't pass here. Need to replace the Tee with a combo Y. Basically a tee but the a long sweep on the Y. The waste will flow better.

However you do very nice work...need a job?

Looks very PRO glad to see that you took the approach on the inserting the pipe into the hub..block of wood and a hammer

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Yes, Plumber101 is correct. What you are using there is a 2 way cleanout. Designed to be installed horrizontally. You need a combination which has directional flow. On the top place a 4" cleanout adapter with a raised head plug. (FIP ftg adapter)
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Thank you. I know the double cleanout goes the other way, but it was tuff finding something to match the 10" fall. As it is, the 90 degree elbow is a long sweep with one female end, and I'm right at fall. Won't a y with a long sweep, put me lower? if thats the case, I'm back to drilling a new hole;(
p.s. Cleaning out that iron was hell! There's got to be a better way than a hammer and chisel!
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as long as your inspector likes it that will work fine. The double cleanout should not be a problem as long as it is on a vertical. I like it. Not exactly to code but oh well
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