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Old 11-14-2012, 10:09 PM   #1
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We are getting rid of a toilet that always requires 2 flushes, maybe 3 to get completely clean. What new toilet brand and model can we get that can guarantee a reasonably clean one flush?!
I've heard some of the older toilets, when they started restricting water usage, were disgusting that way. When I took this one out all the bolts were new! Including the flange bolts. But maybe they were repairing an old toilet? I'd hate to think the new toilets are just as bad.

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I install a lot of Kohler----I seldom have any problems with them----

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During renovations, I put an American Standard Champion 4 in the first floor bath and it's been great so far.

This is why:


That valve will dump the tank in a second.
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The water saver toilets from the early 90's came along as a result of the 1.6 gal mandate and made the multi flush problem pretty common.

Look for a toilet with an over-sized, glazed trap and a larger 3-4" flush valve in the tank. Any toilet with these specs would likely give you good results.

I recently installed four of the "American Standard Champion 4" toilets in a friends new house/shop and he has been very happy with them. I have one in my own house and it flushes incredibly well, even better than the power flush that's in my second bath. Early champion models had some problems with their proprietary flush tower valve and generated some complaints but the new champion 4 models use a more conventional type of flush valve that is a huge 4", along with the oversized 2-3/8" trap.

The "Toto Drake" is another that is often recommended, most people seem to be very happy with it too.
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Thanks guys. I will be shopping for those brands/models.

I am so tired of seeing old stool returning after the first flush.
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Toto makes some good toilets
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I've always liked the Wellworth as you can hold the handle and let even more water through.

The AS Champions work well too but although the flush is powerful it is too fast IMO and doesn't swirl clean the bowl enough.

Haven't clogged either of them though.

Home Depot carries both and offers ratings on flush power.
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I have a Toto Aquia in one bathroom and a Caroma Caravelle in the other. Both of them can flush an extremely hefty load in one flush. I like the Aquia better, but they both get the job done very well.
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has any one used a delta toilet yet and what do they think of it
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I did install a kohler, has a good flush.
This is only the second time I've worked with a non standard toilet. The technology is very cool.
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Check out the map scores of the toilets you're interested in. This is a non-profit group funded by municipalities that performs toilet tests and rates them on grams of waste they can remove, up to 1000g.
http://www.map-testing.com/

But remember, a map score isn't everything. This score doesn't take into account bowl wash, long-term reliability, etc.

I recently bought a Toto Drake II and I've been pretty happy with it, but it is pricey at over $300. Mine was also made in the USA, which was worth a price premium to me. I ordered it from National Builder Supply. The regular Toto Drake is cheaper.

The Gerber Avalanche is another toilet that gets pretty good online reviews, but I haven't personally ever used one or looked at one in person. I think these are made in China, too, if that matters to you. Although I think some Toto toilet parts may also come from China.

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You could try a change in diet...

Seriously though, Im glad I found this thread as I was wondering the same thing. I will be replacing a couple of toilets soon myself and cant stand having to flush twice!
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The kohler I got has a great flush valve, somewhat similar to the one pictured above. Also the flush has no splash. I haven't had any stool returns!
The tank has no holes for tank bolts, it has a plastic platform under the tank that fastens to the bowl. So no worry about leaks there, no double nutting!
The only thing I'm worried about is this is an old condo, late fifties, the drain pipes are probably over sized for the small amount of water this toilet uses per flush. So I do an extra flush once in awhile in case stuff builds up in the drain pipe.

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