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Old 12-13-2011, 08:55 PM   #1
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Hello,

I just moved into my new home and I am having a problem with my laundry sink. When I turn on the tap, the water does not drain into the main drainage from the base of the sink into the black pipe in the basement. The water rather goes into a transparent tube attached to the darinage and wets my basement floor Sree picture below. What could be the problem. How do I fix this. As a result of that i am unable to use the sink, and unable to use the washer which drains into the sink.









The other problem is that when I flush my toilet, the water keeps running. I have therefore turned off the supply to the tank, to save water.
Any ideas in terms of what is wrong and how I can fix it would be very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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Old 12-14-2011, 06:07 AM   #2
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Can you add some more information?

Take a picture of the washing machine drain set up---A washing machine requires a 2" drain---I don't see a drain that size in the picture.

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Old 12-14-2011, 06:16 AM   #3
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I do not even see any connection to the main drain in those pictures.
Someone jack legged that whole set up and it needs to be redone.
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something is not right ....this picture shows nothing.....
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Old 12-14-2011, 08:08 AM   #5
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That clear tube is typical of a water softener discharge line.
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Hi,
I have been trying to post more pictures but for some reason the pictures are not showing this time around. Do not know what the problem is, but anyway I will try to describe it. There is a drain at bottom of the sink - black pipes leading to main drain in the basemetn. The white transparent tuble i am talking about is attached to the back of the sink facucet/tap and when you turn on the tap instead of the water going through the black drain pipe it goes through this transparent tube.
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Those pictures would help---The clear tube is a mystery without a picture---Mike---
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Isn't there a thread here somewhere about a trap primer running from a laundry faucet? It sort of fits this description. I'm late for work or I'd search....
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Isn't there a thread here somewhere about a trap primer running from a laundry faucet? It sort of fits this description. I'm late for work or I'd search....

Hello,

Speaking with a home inspector, she tells me it is a trap seal primer. It is connected to the mid section at the base of the faucet and leads all the way to the two small black pipes sticking out of the basement in the picture. What happens is that when I turn on the tap at the laundry sink which is on the main floor of the house, some of the water goes directly into this tube and finds its way down in the two black pipes. I do not know but it appears it is unable to go down the two black black pipes and so some of that water comes back up through the two black pipes sticking out of the basement floor. Does this help. I am still trying to load pictures. Oh my frustrated!
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Well, at least the toilet should be easy. Lift the tank lid. Determine if the flapper is sealing. If not, make sure the lift chain has slack. If it does, buy a Fluidmaster kit and follow the instructions. If the ballcock valve is leaking and overfilling the tank, buy a Fluidmaster kit and follow the instructions.

Do other fixtures drain into that "main drain black pipe"?
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The black pipe looks like a cast iron drain. Coming out of the floor it looks like there are 2 black hoses. Is that correct and when you say black pipe are you talking about the largest pipe in the pic?
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I believe what you have is a faucet with a trap primer line connected to it. As you use the faucet, water is supplied to a p trap- usually a floor drain. This extra water keeps a seldom used floor drain primed so it will not dry out and allow sewer gases into your living space. Most codes now require trap primers and there are several designs. Your faucet is doing it's part but for some reason the water is leaking under the slab.
The small black pipe I assume is "poly" pipe. It is probably a sleeve for the clear line. The clear line should be directly attached to the p trap. So, Either your clear line has a leak in it under the slab or it is no longer/never was attached to the trap. Another possibility is that the clear hose is just shoved into the black tubing-bad idea.

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To me this appears to be fairly new construction and that the trap primer(s) weren't connected properly before the concrete floor was poured.
If you have neighbors who have a home that's the same as yours, ask if you can see how theirs was finished.

If it is a new home and is still under warranty, the builder will have to come in and install it properly!
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The black pipe looks like a cast iron drain. Coming out of the floor it looks like there are 2 black hoses. Is that correct and when you say black pipe are you talking about the largest pipe in the pic?

Sorry, I have not been able to respond until now. With the black pipes, I am referring to the small ones sticking out of the ground in the basement, not the big one in the picture.
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Well, at least the toilet should be easy. Lift the tank lid. Determine if the flapper is sealing. If not, make sure the lift chain has slack. If it does, buy a Fluidmaster kit and follow the instructions. If the ballcock valve is leaking and overfilling the tank, buy a Fluidmaster kit and follow the instructions.

Do other fixtures drain into that "main drain black pipe"?
Regarding the toilet, the flapper is sealing. I went to home depot and described the situation, and I was advised to change the flapper, so I am going to try that and see. Will let you know how it works.

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