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Old 06-12-2015, 09:18 PM   #1
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Need extra thin electrical hot water tank...


Hi, in another thread i mentioned this as well....

Anywho. I have a very old and odd hot water tank so skinny that is now in a closet of 14"W X 16"D X 70"H.

It is very inefficient, someone told me it could be a heat exchange unit...

I need to change it and hopefully not have to do remodelling.

What do you know will fit in to such a small closet? except for tankless as they are pain....

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Pictures? Don't forget the name plate

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You are in Canada so you might find one. In the US, thanks to the Jokers in DC you would be ready for a cigaret.

Seriously, good luck.
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In another thread you said it was an apartment. Are you in discussions with the landlord ?

In the US you can not change the water heater (or storage tank) without the landlords permission, and in many areas it would need to be done by a plumber since it is rental property. (Assumed from the word apartment) Not sure about Canadian law/code, but it is often similar.
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It continues to amaze me what some people in rentals think the can do. So far I have been lucky with my tenants . I have explicit language in my leases that prohibit modifications, replacement or otherwise touching any mechanical, plumbing, electrical or structural system. I am very quick to respond to the tenants if they have an issue but otherwise you are renting what you saw.
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Here is the pics.

I work for the landlord no issues here. So ...

Still anyone knows of any water tank that is skinny like this?
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Is that a range boiler? From John wood page 30 of the pamphlet.

http://www.johnwoodwaterheaters.com/...s/en/J309C.pdf

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You can get a whirlpool or kenmore 30 or 40 gallon tall that is 18" diameter but that's the narrowest I've seen. I suppose you could stack two 20 gallon water heaters. Some of those are 16" in diameter.

But if you need 14" diameter then you just might need to add insulation to the water heater that is already there.

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http://www.kenmore.com/shc/s/p_10154...id=04233166000

18 inch
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Is that a range boiler? From John wood page 30 of the pamphlet.

http://www.johnwoodwaterheaters.com/...s/en/J309C.pdf
Looks like one for sure. A whole lot like a storage tank, retrofitted.

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see a tp relief valve. It's required in almost every jurisdiction in Canada. I'd be very careful with this, doing anything for a landlord means that you're on the hook for insurance if something goes wrong. Look up all the plumbing codes. (You'll probably have to buy he csa codebook + amendments if you don't already have one available)

I think you'll be stuck using an instantaneous hwh or a space saving tank. The other option is to make the space bigger. I don't think that those range tanks are Certified for a heating element, but I could be wrong.

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You can get a whirlpool or kenmore 30 or 40 gallon tall that is 18" diameter but that's the narrowest I've seen. I suppose you could stack two 20 gallon water heaters. Some of those are 16" in diameter.

But if you need 14" diameter then you just might need to add insulation to the water heater that is already there.

Anyone can point me to the 16" or other 18" water heaters ??

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I'd be tearing out one of the walls next to that tank and framing in a new closet to accommodate a standard heater. 20g point-of-use water heaters cost as much as 40g standard heaters, and you'll need to buy two point-of-use heaters, doubling the cost. So you'd actually be saving money by demolishing and rebuilding a wall.
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Anyone can point me to the 16" or other 18" water heaters ??

Gros Merci....
Up above sears kenmore 18" Electric.
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One more thing, the original heater is electrical. Would love to keep it electrical....

The Kenmore one is no longer available .. and it is natural gas...

Shoot, just want to avoid reframing....
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Shoot, just want to avoid reframing....
Why? Reframing is probably cheaper and easier than finding or jury rigging a heater to fit the non-standard space. 2x4s and drywall are cheap, you could have it done in an afternoon or a couple of evenings.

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