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Old 04-20-2009, 07:49 AM   #16
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My closet flange is too high?


Picture from underneath... as far as from the floor - the toilet is there now and this is our only bathroom. Clearly, there is access here though, from the garage...
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:47 AM   #17
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It is good you have access. You can make the floor the height you want it to be. Working with cast iron overhead is very difficult so unless noise is an issue I would replace the cast with PVC or ABS all the way to the stack. You can use rubber bushing that goes into the cast iron hub or a coupling that looks like a short rubber pipe with a stainless steel clamp around it to connect the plastic to the cast.
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:17 AM   #18
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Ok, I haven't seen the side of the stack that the stub comes out of. See the hub that is visible behind the arrow? The stack is directly on the other side of that wall right there, literally up against the plaster in fact. So is that hub right there the one you are saying I should go into? I'm sorry I'm not following very well. I was thinking I would cutting about 6" or so away from the hub and using one of these



If there is an easier or better way? I wasn't sure if it would be easier/better to cut along that horizontal run where the arrow is, or along the vertical run just below the sub floor.
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You are exactly on the right track. As close as you are to the stack I would not cut anything. Once you get the old flange out of the way and make sure the cast is not attached to the joists you will probably be able to wiggle what is left out of the hub in the stack. Just be careful not to move the stack. You can carefully dig out the lead with a chisel or apply some heat to melt the lead and it will come right out. When you get it out it will be heavy. Be mindful of what will be damaged if it falls… feet, tools, nicely finished floors. You can use a hub bushing to start your PVC or ABS plastic from the stack. You should choose between PVC and ABS based on what is accepted in your area. PVC is the most common.

Leave the new pipe at least a few inches higher than the new floor. You will be able to cut it and make the new flange sit on the new floor where is should be. Be sure to screw it down properly. Once you get the old cast out the hardest part will be getting that bushing to seat. Use something like dish soap to help it slide in.

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You are exactly on the right track. As close as you are to the stack I would not cut anything. Once you get the old flange out of the way and make sure the cast is not attached to the joists you will probably be able to wiggle what is left out of the hub in the stack. Just be careful not to move the stack. You can carefully dig out the lead with a chisel or apply some heat to melt the lead and it will come right out. When you get it out it will be heavy. Be mindful of what will be damaged if it falls… feet, tools, nicely finished floors. You can use a hub bushing to start your PVC or ABS plastic from the stack. You should choose between PVC and ABS based on what is accepted in your area. PVC is the most common.

Leave the new pipe at least a few inches higher than the new floor. You will be able to cut it and make the new flange sit on the new floor where is should be. Be sure to screw it down properly. Once you get the old cast out the hardest part will be getting that bushing to seat. Use something like dish soap to help it slide in.

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Ok sounds great. I thought cutting was my only option, I didn't realize I could dig out the hub. I think the hardest part of everything will be coordinating everything - this is our only toilet. Thanks for the info!


and this is the bushing I will need, right?


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That looks like a Fernco Multi-tite and should work just fine.
This will be more than a one day job since you need to get the new floor in before you replace the toilet. If you have a floor drain in the basement you might consider putting a temporary bathroom in the basement using the toilet you are removing. I have done this on remodels in the past and used them for months at a time. I have even rigged temporary showers in these temporary bathrooms.
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I do not have a floor drain unfortunately. Right below that hub on the base of that wall is an exposed 4" cleanout that I use to snake the main line when roots come. I wonder if I can get really creative and use that somehow - it IS a few inches off the ground though...
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I just worked on a toilet flange with a lead bend a couple of weeks ago. I found this video on YouTube which showed this Extender Kit. You might want to check it out. I ordered one and it worked great for me.
I found it on YouTube in a search under Toilet Flange Repair, the company is out of NJ...set-rite.com

Good Luck...
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I just worked on a toilet flange with a lead bend a couple of weeks ago. I found this video on YouTube which showed this Extender Kit. You might want to check it out. I ordered one and it worked great for me.
I found it on YouTube in a search under Toilet Flange Repair, the company is out of NJ...set-rite.com

Good Luck...

Hmm, thanks for the spam. I'm sure that an extender will help me get the height of that flange down

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