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ecommerceaustin 01-22-2013 03:34 PM

Moen 3510 Valve Rough In Dilemma
 
Just received my Moentrol 3510 Rough In valves (2) and have difficulty figuring how to mount in wall framing.

I thought I was going to mount each valve to a stringer between the studs and run my PEX supply to the IPS fittings however, this particular valve does not appear to have mounting features on the body that would flush up against a stringer.

I will not be sweating copper so it is either figure out how to secure the valve to the framing or return the valves and start over.

Ideas on mounting and running PEX supply would be appreciated. I'll be plugging the 'Tub' outlet from the valve and using only the shower output.

joecaption 01-22-2013 03:38 PM

If it's like this one I'm seeing two spots to screw it to the top of a 2 X 4 sitting vertical.
http://www.amazon.com/Moen-3510-Moen.../dp/B00083VJ04

paul100 01-22-2013 07:29 PM

You can also use clamps to hold the Pex to some blocking. Keep the clamps close to the valve.

ecommerceaustin 01-22-2013 08:07 PM

yes that is the valve and the holes are there in the casting but there location is such that you can only get in about 3/16" on center from the edge of a piece of wood.

ecommerceaustin 01-22-2013 08:09 PM

I'm all in on securing the PEX to some blocking.

ecommerceaustin 01-23-2013 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul100 (Post 1099778)
You can also use clamps to hold the Pex to some blocking. Keep the clamps close to the valve.

you are advocating that by clamping the PEX close to the valve body (on 3 sides) the valve will be stable enough to not be displaced during operation?

Alan 01-23-2013 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecommerceaustin (Post 1100115)
you are advocating that by clamping the PEX close to the valve body (on 3 sides) the valve will be stable enough to not be displaced during operation?

It will be solid enough. Put them right next to the crimp rings, and it should hold pretty steady.

Make sure you set the depth of the valve properly.

ecommerceaustin 01-23-2013 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan (Post 1100596)
It will be solid enough. Put them right next to the crimp rings, and it should hold pretty steady.

Make sure you set the depth of the valve properly.

Thank you

Alan 01-23-2013 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecommerceaustin (Post 1100611)
Thank you

OoOoOh you're welcome. :thumbup:

ecommerceaustin 01-29-2013 11:39 AM

I misunderstood how the valve was to be mounted and after talking with the Moen Customer Service Rep it became clear that there were mounting features.

DavidSeon 01-29-2013 10:17 PM

I'd be interested in what their "mounting features" are. I've just been doing something like Joe said.

http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1c0985b5.jpg

ecommerceaustin 01-30-2013 05:30 PM

That's exactly what I did and that's what he said to do. When I first started 'dry fitting' things together it did not appear that it was seating squarely....but upon further review...it did.

jagans 01-30-2013 06:02 PM

Its really funny when Joe tells people how to do something right, and then there are ten million following posts, and they finally do it like he said in the first place. Its like shopping with my wife.

"Hows this dress look" "Phenomenal!" Great pick! ten thousand dresses and three hours later she buys the original one I said looked phenomenal.

I don't go anymore. No it wont be solid enough hanging on PEX, its a flexible plastic hose, right?

Thanks Joe.

ecommerceaustin 01-30-2013 07:00 PM

Actually Joe said the TOP, but it's really the SIDE. Either way its good dialogue to have forced me to think through it more. :thumbsup: and that's a good thing. Thanks JOE!!

jagans 01-30-2013 08:18 PM

The point is that there are fastening lugs provided on the fixture, be they side or top, and that is what holds the fixture secure, not the pipes. Those fixtures take some pretty significant stress when you are trying to pull the cartridge out of a neglected one, unless you have a Cart puller, which most DIY'ers dont. Now Im sure you used Stainless Steel or Brass screws at least No. 10 Right?


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