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Old 11-03-2012, 05:24 PM   #1
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We knew we had a leak, but thought it was the seal. Instead we found this:



Then we found this:



If you notice about 1 oclock position, the mortar and foundation is gone! So what do you guys propose for me?

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Old 11-03-2012, 05:28 PM   #2
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I dunno, little duck tape should fix that.

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If that first picture is of the bottom of the shower pan, this has been going on for a while.
Looks simple enough.
Repore the floor to get it level, water proof it, install new pan.
Most pans I've installed require blobs of morter be placed to support the bottom of the pan so it does not crack like that one did.
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Good point joe, looking at the photo I assumed pan was already removed.
Then looking at the poster, was a non issue to do it right, toss in a little humor.
But if was no mortar bed under it to support it, could be why it failed in the first place.
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Duct tape bad. Morter good.
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My question is, I am seeing clear water in the 1 o'clock position. I am also getting clay!

I think it needs to be jacked out around the drain and re poured?

What do you think?

Also, no there was no mortar anywhere! I think they thru down what you see, squashed the pan down and ran laughing saying it a be years before this guy finds this out!
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You may well be right.
And your right on the way to fix it.
While your digging it out make sure they at least put in a trap, make the pore at least 4" thick, wrap some foam or nylon 1/2 rope around the drain before poring so it has room to flex.
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Obviously that shower needs rebuilding----

You have many options------

Fiberglass pan----cheap and serviceable---but plain and looks worn after a few years

Cast onyx pan----sharp looking --moderately expensive---many colors available--

Tiled pan-----several methods of building one-----pricy , but can be very attractive----

What is your budget? Are you a DIYer or more likely to hire the work out?
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You may well be right.
And your right on the way to fix it.
While your digging it out make sure they at least put in a trap, make the pore at least 4" thick, wrap some foam or nylon 1/2 rope around the drain before poring so it has room to flex.
There is a trap
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Obviously that shower needs rebuilding----

You have many options------

Fiberglass pan----cheap and serviceable---but plain and looks worn after a few years

Cast onyx pan----sharp looking --moderately expensive---many colors available--

Tiled pan-----several methods of building one-----pricy , but can be very attractive----

What is your budget? Are you a DIYer or more likely to hire the work out?
DIYer no budget.
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Should the trap be encapsulated within the cement foundation?
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How to build a shower - Building a shower pan with pre-sloped mortar bed, liner and curb.

This is the standard packed base-----cost in materials about $135---not including tile----

Drain with square cover---PVC sheet membrane---masons mix or make your own mud----

Then add Durrock for the walls----new shower mixer valve (if needed) --Red Guard or Hydroban waterproofing for the walls---

Tile and grout----
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How to build a shower - Building a shower pan with pre-sloped mortar bed, liner and curb.

This is the standard packed base-----cost in materials about $135---not including tile----

Drain with square cover---PVC sheet membrane---masons mix or make your own mud----

Then add Durrock for the walls----new shower mixer valve (if needed) --Red Guard or Hydroban waterproofing for the walls---

Tile and grout----
Thanks, what I need to determine first is what to do about the drain?

This was a new home when we bought it and don't understand why this drain appears to have been cut out? And poorly filed in?

But need to deal with the drain and leveling first.
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Can you take a picture from further back---include the base too--

I see a fiberglass base---do I also see the concrete pad that it used to sit on?
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Break out the concrete patch and make sure PVC riser extends high enough for a new fiberglass shower unit. Pour back concrete, leaving room for the pipe to flex some. Allow clearances for the shower drain assembly (notice the nut impression). If you're going with a mud base, the prep is similar but a different drain body

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