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leemort 02-11-2012 01:22 PM

Main Water Shutoff Valve leak & question
 
This is one of the various fixes I'm doing on my new/old house.

My main water shutoff valve looks basically just like this, except a lot older:

http://hostedmedia.reimanpub.com/TFH..._WAVALE_01.JPG


I just tightened the packing nut and the leak seems to have stopped for now, although I'm not fully confident its 100% fixed yet. So I guess the next step is replacing the washer.

As I understand it, I can first close the valve to shutoff the water and then remove the handle & nut to replace the washer.

I just wanted to make sure this is correct procedure and water won't be shooting out as soon as I remove the packing nut, since its the main shutoff and I don't have any other shutoff valves located before this one (not even a curbside one at the meter).


thanks!

Akpsdvan 02-11-2012 01:37 PM

I my self would not go to the bank on that.

What is to keep the gate in place when you remove that outer nut to replace the packing nut?

oh'mike 02-11-2012 01:37 PM

That's the method----the packing looks like a Teflon covered string---not a washer-

leemort 02-11-2012 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 850480)
That's the method----the packing looks like a Teflon covered string---not a washer-

So you're saying what I described is the way to do it?

Just making sure since the reply above from Akpsdvan is advising against.

Thanks for the tip on the packing

plummen 02-11-2012 02:03 PM

:):):)

Lightfoot 02-11-2012 02:04 PM

I'd shut the water off at the meter and change that out for a 1/4 turn ball valve.

leemort 02-11-2012 02:12 PM

yeah, I figured my closing/opening of the valve is what caused the leak to start.

Unfortunately I don't have any shutoff valves at the meter, so I would have to get utilities to come out and shut it off on their side. The only main shutoff I have is the one that was dripping. It still appears to have stopped the drip after I tightened the nut, so maybe that will fix it afterall.

There aren't any shutoff valves for any of the sinks, toilets, showers, etc in this house- a bit aggravating. I think one of my next projects will be installing them all. Adding a ball valve at the meter would be excellent

I'm sorry to be so thick headed here, but I'm still not clear on if its safe for me to remove the handle/packing nut on the main shutoff after closing, or if I will need utilities to shut my water off first?

plummen 02-11-2012 02:26 PM

:):):)

alecmcmahon 02-11-2012 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leemort (Post 850518)
yeah, I figured my closing/opening of the valve is what caused the leak to start.

Unfortunately I don't have any shutoff valves at the meter, so I would have to get utilities to come out and shut it off on their side. The only main shutoff I have is the one that was dripping. It still appears to have stopped the drip after I tightened the nut, so maybe that will fix it afterall.

There aren't any shutoff valves for any of the sinks, toilets, showers, etc in this house- a bit aggravating. I think one of my next projects will be installing them all. Adding a ball valve at the meter would be excellent

I'm sorry to be so thick headed here, but I'm still not clear on if its safe for me to remove the handle/packing nut on the main shutoff after closing, or if I will need utilities to shut my water off first?

why even bother repairing this old valve? go to home depot and pick up a ball valve for 7 bucks and sweat it in.

handy man88 02-11-2012 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akpsdvan (Post 850479)
I my self would not go to the bank on that.

What is to keep the gate in place when you remove that outer nut to replace the packing nut?

The stem of the gate valve is held secure via the internal metal threads of the valve itself. The stem will not shoot out after the packing nut is removed.

joecaption 02-11-2012 05:05 PM

Not a big deal to shut the water off at the meter out in the yard and no need to call the utility. I just use an adjustable wrench and turn it 1/4 turn.

plummen 02-11-2012 05:15 PM

:):):)

joecaption 02-11-2012 05:24 PM

Is that to get them below the frost line?
Must have to use one of those long Tee handles to get to those.

plummen 02-11-2012 05:31 PM

:):):)

TheEplumber 02-11-2012 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plummen (Post 850738)
Yes sir,ive got several of them from 8-10' long just incase :thumbsup:

Same here but I don't like to use them. Ever had to buy a broken curb stop? Better to leave it to the water co.- let them break their stops.


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